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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: "David E. Box" <david.e.box@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Kai-Heng Feng" <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
	"Johan Hovold" <johan+linaro@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Andy Gross" <agross@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Andersson" <andersson@kernel.org>,
	"Konrad Dybcio" <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <mani@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Nirmal Patel" <nirmal.patel@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jonathan Derrick" <jonathan.derrick@linux.dev>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] PCI/ASPM: Add locked helper for enabling link state
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 11:28:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231214172848.GA1095194@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb42db34f456c3a157cc574893fd73d877b85b75.camel@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 03:39:24PM -0800, David E. Box wrote:
> On Wed, 2023-12-13 at 14:45 -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> ...

> > I'd be shocked if Windows treated the BIOS config as a "do not exceed
> > this" situation, so my secret hope is that some of these "broken"
> > devices are really caused by defects in the Linux ASPM support or the
> > driver, and that we can fix them if we find out about them.
> > 
> > But I have no details about any of these alleged broken devices, so
> > it's hard to make progress on them.  
> 
> I don't have a sense of the scope either. But I could see BIOS not
> enabling features that would provide no added power savings benefit.
> We use ASPM to manage package power. There are Intel devices that
> certainly don't require L1SS for the SoC to achieve the deepest
> power savings. L1 alone is fine for them. I don't know what the test
> coverage is for unenabled features. I've sent these questions to
> our BIOS folks.

Once upon a time there was a push to make it so firmware only had to
enumerate boot and console devices and it could skip enumeration and
configuration of other devices.  But I don't think we've made much
progress on that, at least for x86, possibly because Linux depends so
much on BIOS resource assignment.  IMO that's a Linux deficiency.

Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-14 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20231128081512.19387-1-johan+linaro@kernel.org>
2023-11-28  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] PCI/ASPM: Add locked helper for enabling link state Johan Hovold
2023-12-07 20:47   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-12-08  8:00     ` Johan Hovold
2023-12-08 17:39       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-12-12  9:25         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-12-12  3:48     ` Kai-Heng Feng
2023-12-12 21:27       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-12-13 19:48         ` David E. Box
2023-12-13 20:45           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-12-13 23:39             ` David E. Box
2023-12-14 17:28               ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2023-11-28  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] PCI: vmd: Fix deadlock when enabling ASPM Johan Hovold

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