From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8DD61C20 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1708538278; cv=none; b=Z0anS7YDRJy8Qjp8ZYkBVjFVhhNv2SnVXJrpgpsW8ziBBV149ii7YB2U/Dt7HXPKNvLaSqQ6JoOi1PGJ4ei0qytPBJMeEQ+EM3+vPCSkQTmUVd1ZgKEE5t365bCuA07Fx/y854tE/tdhl1JRSS+//DoTaZe+wnpP+cScJ+VZgJg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1708538278; c=relaxed/simple; bh=cMQNIy6Syx25aQIR/uFvi2t38is2Xd6+hybnV9ggKb4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=S67U48MeprP+eh9yxbVoFJDtW5mt97yO8/1LCJ84RLzc9T47Fj8JuXf1rtfxmau4PaMfPkdJUiQaxvWCupUIQ9eKVA9KvCn+EoBfo0viWviCqXGShJ7fvWlma0emW1/VGZu8z1yWjgEky4x8+xSriC6Ov19+2rZ413FcJFutM08= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=ilwzFD52; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="ilwzFD52" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB798C433F1; Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:57:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1708538277; bh=cMQNIy6Syx25aQIR/uFvi2t38is2Xd6+hybnV9ggKb4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=ilwzFD52z0IGLYs9JQUzNUolv2uErrn3gBdlnp2bmHCQ95tuvsHpB6juXguPtVaLy POythSxuT2VJRjD76+LkWlQa23hdiESWUCCcMSPlNOknKai71Q65Zh95FcJbcqE8Y2 L300o3Fzw4JAhs1zip67VoqzmxRvs76H2aV7W0UI= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 18:57:54 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Oleksandr Natalenko Cc: Kent Overstreet , Jiri Benc , Sasha Levin , stable@vger.kernel.org, Vlastimil Babka , Thorsten Leemhuis Subject: Re: fs/bcachefs/ Message-ID: <2024022155-reformat-scorer-98ae@gregkh> References: <2024022103-municipal-filter-fb3f@gregkh> <4900587.31r3eYUQgx@natalenko.name> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: stable@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4900587.31r3eYUQgx@natalenko.name> On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 05:00:05PM +0100, Oleksandr Natalenko wrote: > On středa 21. února 2024 15:53:11 CET Greg KH wrote: > > Given the huge patch volume that the stable tree manages (30-40 changes > > accepted a day, 7 days a week), any one kernel subsystem that wishes to > > do something different only slows down everyone else. > > Lower down the volume then? Raise the bar for what gets backported? > Stable kernel releases got unnecessarily big [1] (Jiří is in Cc). > Those 40 changes a day cannot get a proper review. Each stable release > tries to mimic -rc except -rc is in consistent state while "stable" is > just a bunch of changes picked here and there. If you can point out any specific commits that we should not be taking, please let us know. Personally I think we are not taking enough, and are still missing real fixes. Overall, this is only a very small % of what goes into Linus's tree every day, so by that measure alone, we know we are missing things. thanks, greg k-h