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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org, K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Felix Moessbauer <felix.moessbauer@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6.1] softirq: Allow raising SCHED_SOFTIRQ from SMP-call-function on RT kernel
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 17:10:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025012949-unshaved-sprain-a685@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b07a5022053314df7c756145068bf8653d077f18.camel@siemens.com>

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 05:09:56PM +0100, Florian Bezdeka wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-01-29 at 16:58 +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 04:47:59PM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 04:32:26PM +0100, Florian Bezdeka wrote:
> > > > From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> > > > 
> > > > commit 6675ce20046d149e1e1ffe7e9577947dee17aad5 upstream.
> > > > 
> > > > do_softirq_post_smp_call_flush() on PREEMPT_RT kernels carries a
> > > > WARN_ON_ONCE() for any SOFTIRQ being raised from an SMP-call-function.
> > > > Since do_softirq_post_smp_call_flush() is called with preempt disabled,
> > > > raising a SOFTIRQ during flush_smp_call_function_queue() can lead to
> > > > longer preempt disabled sections.
> > > > 
> > > > Since commit b2a02fc43a1f ("smp: Optimize
> > > > send_call_function_single_ipi()") IPIs to an idle CPU in
> > > > TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG mode can be optimized out by instead setting
> > > > TIF_NEED_RESCHED bit in idle task's thread_info and relying on the
> > > > flush_smp_call_function_queue() in the idle-exit path to run the
> > > > SMP-call-function.
> > > > 
> > > > To trigger an idle load balancing, the scheduler queues
> > > > nohz_csd_function() responsible for triggering an idle load balancing on
> > > > a target nohz idle CPU and sends an IPI. Only now, this IPI is optimized
> > > > out and the SMP-call-function is executed from
> > > > flush_smp_call_function_queue() in do_idle() which can raise a
> > > > SCHED_SOFTIRQ to trigger the balancing.
> > > > 
> > > > So far, this went undetected since, the need_resched() check in
> > > > nohz_csd_function() would make it bail out of idle load balancing early
> > > > as the idle thread does not clear TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG before calling
> > > > flush_smp_call_function_queue(). The need_resched() check was added with
> > > > the intent to catch a new task wakeup, however, it has recently
> > > > discovered to be unnecessary and will be removed in the subsequent
> > > > commit after which nohz_csd_function() can raise a SCHED_SOFTIRQ from
> > > > flush_smp_call_function_queue() to trigger an idle load balance on an
> > > > idle target in TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG mode.
> > > > 
> > > > nohz_csd_function() bails out early if "idle_cpu()" check for the
> > > > target CPU, and does not lock the target CPU's rq until the very end,
> > > > once it has found tasks to run on the CPU and will not inhibit the
> > > > wakeup of, or running of a newly woken up higher priority task. Account
> > > > for this and prevent a WARN_ON_ONCE() when SCHED_SOFTIRQ is raised from
> > > > flush_smp_call_function_queue().
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
> > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20241119054432.6405-2-kprateek.nayak@amd.com
> > > > Tested-by: Felix Moessbauer <felix.moessbauer@siemens.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > 
> > > > Newer stable branches (6.12, 6.6) got this already, 5.10 and lower are
> > > > not affected.
> > > > 
> > > > The warning triggered for SCHED_SOFTIRQ under high network load while
> > > > testing.
> > > 
> > > But RT is not in the 6.1.y tree, right?  Or is it?  Why was it only
> > > backported to 6.6.y and 6.12.y?
> > 
> > And see:
> > 	https://lore.kernel.org/r/d21a8129-e982-463f-af8b-07a14b6a674a@amd.com
> > for why we added it to 6.12.y in the first place (I don't know why Sasha
> > added it to 6.6.y...)
> 
> All versions down to 6.1 have the same problem. The same splat seen by
> Prateek on 6.12 can happen in 6.6 (already fixed by Sasha) and 6.1 as
> well. I think it was simply overlooked.
> 
> We did intensive testing on 6.1 these days. We can confirm that it
> fixes the problem on 6.1 as well.
> 
> Does that helpa

Yes, that helps, thanks!  I'll go queue it up now.

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-29 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-29 15:32 [PATCH 6.1] softirq: Allow raising SCHED_SOFTIRQ from SMP-call-function on RT kernel Florian Bezdeka
2025-01-29 15:47 ` Greg KH
2025-01-29 15:58   ` Greg KH
2025-01-29 16:09     ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-01-29 16:10       ` Greg KH [this message]
2025-01-29 16:47 ` Sasha Levin

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