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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: "NBU-Contact-Li Rongqing (EXTERNAL)" <lirongqing@baidu.com>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux.dev" <virtualization@lists.linux.dev>,
	"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "virtio_pci: Support surprise removal of virtio pci device"
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 06:21:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250827061925-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CY8PR12MB7195EC4A075009871C937664DC39A@CY8PR12MB7195.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 06:52:11PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > > If it does not, and a user pull out the working device, how does
> > > > your patch help?
> > > >
> > > A driver must tell that it will not follow broken ancient behaviour and at that
> > point device would stop its ancient backward compatibility mode.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I don't know what is "ancient backward compatibility mode".
> > 
> Let me explain.
> Sadly, CSPs virtio pci device implementation is done such a way that, it works with ancient Linux kernel which does not have commit 43bb40c5b9265.


OK we are getting new information here.

So let me summarize. There's a virtual system that pretends, to the
guest, that device was removed by surprise removal, but actually
device is there and is still doing DMA.
Is that a fair summary?

-- 
MST


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 10:27 [PATCH] Revert "virtio_pci: Support surprise removal of virtio pci device" Li,Rongqing
2025-08-22 12:24 ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-22 13:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-22 13:53     ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-22 14:02       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-24  2:36         ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-24 14:29           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-26 18:52             ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-27 10:21               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-08-27 10:49                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-28  6:23                   ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-28  6:34                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-28  6:59                       ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-28  9:23                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-28 10:41                           ` Parav Pandit
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-08-22  9:17 Parav Pandit
2025-08-22 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-22 12:22   ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-22 13:03     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-22 13:49       ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-22 13:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-24  2:36           ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-24 14:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-26 18:52               ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-27 10:19                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-27 11:33                   ` Cornelia Huck
2025-08-28  6:24                     ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-28 12:16                       ` Cornelia Huck
2025-08-28 12:19                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-28 12:22                           ` Cornelia Huck
2025-08-28 12:33                             ` Parav Pandit
2025-08-28 13:00                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-08-28 13:37                                 ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-08 14:59 Parav Pandit
2025-04-08 20:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-09 13:50   ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-09 16:02     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-16  3:01       ` Parav Pandit

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