From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
Cc: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
Koen Koning <koen.koning@linux.intel.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
Matthew Auld <matthew.auld@intel.com>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
Peter Senna Tschudin <peter.senna@linux.intel.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] gpu/buddy: fix module_init() usage
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2026 06:44:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026022156-citizen-shredding-5d6d@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1771594440.99434@nvidia.com>
On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 08:55:52AM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Feb 20, 2026, at 5:17 AM, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri Feb 20, 2026 at 7:06 AM CET, Greg KH wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 10:38:56PM +0100, Koen Koning wrote:
> >>> Use subsys_initcall() instead of module_init() (which compiles to
> >>> device_initcall() for built-ins) for buddy, so its initialization code
> >>> always runs before any (built-in) drivers.
> >>> This happened to work correctly so far due to the order of linking in
> >>> the Makefiles, but this should not be relied upon.
> >>
> >> Same here, Makefile order can always be relied on.
> >
> > I want to point out that Koen's original patch fixed the Makefile order:
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/Makefile b/drivers/gpu/Makefile
> > index 5cd54d06e262..b4e5e338efa2 100644
> > --- a/drivers/gpu/Makefile
> > +++ b/drivers/gpu/Makefile
> > @@ -2,8 +2,9 @@
> > # drm/tegra depends on host1x, so if both drivers are built-in care must be
> > # taken to initialize them in the correct order. Link order is the only way
> > # to ensure this currently.
> > +# Similarly, buddy must come first since it is used by other drivers.
> > +obj-$(CONFIG_GPU_BUDDY) += buddy.o
> > obj-y += host1x/ drm/ vga/ tests/
> > obj-$(CONFIG_IMX_IPUV3_CORE) += ipu-v3/
> > obj-$(CONFIG_TRACE_GPU_MEM) += trace/
> > obj-$(CONFIG_NOVA_CORE) += nova-core/
> > -obj-$(CONFIG_GPU_BUDDY) += buddy.o
> >
> > He was then suggested to not rely on this and rather use subsys_initcall().
>
> I take the blame for the suggestion; however, I am not yet convinced it is a bad
> idea.
> >
> > When I then came across the new patch using subsys_initcall() I made it worse; I
> > badly confused this with something else and gave a wrong advise -- sorry Koen!
> >
> > (Of course, since this is all within the same subsystem, without any external
> > ordering contraints, Makefile order is sufficient.)
>
> If we are still going to do the link ordering by reordering in the Makefile,
> may I ask what is the drawback of doing the alternative - that is, not
> relying on that (and its associated potential for breakage)?
>
> Even if Makefile ordering can be relied on, why do we want to rely on it if
> there is an alternative? Also module_init() compiles to device_initcall() for
> built-ins and this is shared infra.
>
> We use this technique in other code paths too, no? See
> drivers/i2c/i2c-core-base.c:
>
> /* We must initialize early, because some subsystems register i2c drivers
> * in subsys_initcall() code, but are linked (and initialized) before i2c.
> */
> postcore_initcall(i2c_init);
>
> If there is a drawback I am all ears but otherwise I would prefer the new
> patch tbh.
The "problem" is that the init levels are very "coarse", and the link
order is very specific. You can play with init levels a lot, but what
happens if another driver also sets to the same init level, or an
earlier one to try to solve something that way?
So it can be a loosing battle for many things, choose the best and
simplest solution, but always remember, Makefile order matters, which is
what I was wanting to correct here.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-21 5:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260216111902.110286-1-koen.koning@linux.intel.com>
[not found] ` <20260219213858.370675-1-koen.koning@linux.intel.com>
2026-02-19 21:38 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] gpu/buddy: fix module_init() usage Koen Koning
2026-02-20 6:06 ` Greg KH
2026-02-20 10:17 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-20 13:55 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-21 5:44 ` Greg KH [this message]
2026-02-23 0:49 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-23 11:17 ` Koen Koning
2026-02-23 11:20 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-23 13:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-02-23 22:31 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-24 3:41 ` David Airlie
2026-02-19 21:38 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] drm/sched: " Koen Koning
2026-02-20 6:06 ` Greg KH
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