From: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
To: Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@kernel.org>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
David Rheinsberg <david@readahead.eu>,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] HID: uhid: Fix out-of-bounds write caused by raw events mismanagement
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2026 16:23:15 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260226162315.GF8023@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aaBqruhB0a7m0SBG@plouf>
On Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> On Feb 26 2026, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 26 2026, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 24 Feb 2026, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 24 Feb 2026, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Long story short: that patch is too intrusive as it makes assumption on
> > > > > > the behavior of the device. We need to understand where/if the bug was
> > > > > > spotted and fix the caller of hid_hw_raw_request, not the uhid
> > > > > > implementation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot for the analysis, Benjamin!
> > > > >
> > > > > I asked about that here:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/172q4775-616s-p7s4-7n80-p8579n0r3516@xreary.bet/
> > > > >
> > > > > So let's wait for Lee to clarify. Until that, the patch stays out of the
> > > > > branch.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to both of you for looking into this. I appreciate your efforts.
> > > >
> > > > This is very much real world.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to add an errata for the PS3 controller?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunatelly no. uhid merely emulates what a device can do, and HID is
> > > a convention. So if we were to have a special case to PS3 controllers,
> > > we would then start having to maintain an endless list of quirks when
> > > the issue is *not* in uhid, but in the processing of the device after
> > > (maybe in hid-core?).
> >
> > Actually I think the issue is in UHID. At least the way I read it.
>
> And I disagree :)
>
> >
> > Are there legitimate use-cases for devices overwriting the Report ID
> > contained in the first index of the data buffer? From my very limited
> > knowledge of the subsystem, this sounds like an oversight.
> >
>
> Legitimate, probably no, but we are talking about physical devices
> here. uhid is a mere replacement of a transport layer, and there is
> nothing that prevents a device to reply with a buffer starting with 1
> when requested about feature 2 (because it's firmware and they just
> don't care).
>
> This happens a lot with proprietary features on devices, when there is
> no spec, so ODM provide their own driver and they can do whatever they
> want.
>
> If uhid or any transport layer solely takes the decision that a reply to
> a request is wrong, we have no chance of fixing it after the fact. This
> is what happens with the PS3 controller: an undocumented feature is
> used, but that's what the Playstation does, so we need to tag along.
>
> I hope it makes more sense now.
>
> FTR, Lee shared the logs of the issue privately, and I already told him
> where we should fix the issue.
Thanks for all the help and the insight.
I will follow-up with the suggested fixes soon.
--
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-26 16:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-11 16:40 [PATCH 1/1] HID: uhid: Fix out-of-bounds write caused by raw events mismanagement Lee Jones
2026-02-21 9:49 ` Jiri Kosina
2026-02-21 13:03 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-02-21 19:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2026-02-24 8:42 ` Jiri Kosina
2026-02-24 15:57 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-02-24 16:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2026-02-26 11:18 ` Lee Jones
2026-02-26 12:22 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-02-26 14:08 ` Lee Jones
2026-02-26 15:51 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-02-26 16:23 ` Lee Jones [this message]
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