From: Wesley Cheng <wesley.cheng@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Guan-Yu Lin <guanyulin@google.com>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, mathias.nyman@intel.com,
perex@perex.cz, tiwai@suse.com, quic_wcheng@quicinc.com,
broonie@kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de, christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr,
xiaopei01@kylinos.cn, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org,
stable@vger.kernel.org, Hailong Liu <hailong.liu@oppo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] usb: offload: move device locking to callers in offload.c
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 17:24:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e551ffa-1952-42a9-8f92-d77445134cb9@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOuDEK3b4BtHVYhLH_NkE1fP1-9ncqvAq6VedBzWLm=D_YDHQg@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/18/2026 4:21 PM, Guan-Yu Lin wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 4:17 PM Wesley Cheng
> <wesley.cheng@oss.qualcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/8/2026 7:22 PM, Guan-Yu Lin wrote:
>>>
>>> @@ -27,31 +28,25 @@ int usb_offload_get(struct usb_device *udev)
>>> {
>>> int ret;
>>>
>>> - usb_lock_device(udev);
>>> - if (udev->state == USB_STATE_NOTATTACHED) {
>>> - usb_unlock_device(udev);
>>> + device_lock_assert(&udev->dev);
>>> +
>>> + if (udev->state == USB_STATE_NOTATTACHED)
>>> return -ENODEV;
>>> - }
>
> Could be removed. Since the udev is in USB_STATE_NOTATTACHED. I expect
> the data structure being cleaned afterwards, so actually counter value
> might not be important at this moment.
>
>>>
>>> if (udev->state == USB_STATE_SUSPENDED ||
>>> - udev->offload_at_suspend) {
>>> - usb_unlock_device(udev);
>>> + udev->offload_at_suspend)
>>> return -EBUSY;
>>> - }
>>>
>
> This check is still required. Because the suspend/resume process
> depends on the counter value, we can't modify the counter value while
> the device is suspended. If we do so, we will have an unbalanced
> suspend resume operation.
>
> However, we might only need to check for udev->offload_at_suspend (if
> we ensure the device is active when we want to incremant the counter):
> 1. If the offload_usage_count is 0, we won't decrement counts at this moment.
> 2. If the offload_usage_count is not 0, the offload_at_suspend flag
> will be true anyway.
>
>>
>> Do we really need to be explicitly checking for the usb device state before
>> we touch the offload_usage count? In the end, its a reference count that
>> determines how many consumers are active for a specific interrupter, so my
>> question revolves around if we need to have such strict checks.
>>
>
> Please find the explanation for each check above.
>
>>> /*
>>> * offload_usage could only be modified when the device is active, since
>>> * it will alter the suspend flow of the device.
>>> */
>>> ret = usb_autoresume_device(udev);
>>> - if (ret < 0) {
>>> - usb_unlock_device(udev);
>>> + if (ret < 0)
>>> return ret;
>>> - }
>>>
>>
>> IMO this should be handled already by the class driver, and if not, what is
>> the harm?
>>
>
> We can only increment the usage count when the device is active. For
> counter decrement, the device could be in any state.
>
> My initial design is to resume the device and then modify the usage
> count. Another option is to check only whether the USB device is
> active via pm_runtime_get_if_active, and leave the device-resuming
> effort to the class driver. Do you think this is the better approach?
>
I think I prefer the active check over RPM versus forcing a device resume.
>>> udev->offload_usage++;
>>> usb_autosuspend_device(udev);
>>> - usb_unlock_device(udev);
>>>
>>> return ret;
>>> }
>>> @@ -64,6 +59,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(usb_offload_get);
>>> * The inverse operation of usb_offload_get, which drops the offload_usage of
>>> * a USB device. This information allows the USB driver to adjust its power
>>> * management policy based on offload activity.
>>> + * The caller must hold @udev's device lock.
>>> *
>>> * Return: 0 on success. A negative error code otherwise.
>>> */
>>> @@ -71,33 +67,27 @@ int usb_offload_put(struct usb_device *udev)
>>> {
>>> int ret;
>>>
>>> - usb_lock_device(udev);
>>> - if (udev->state == USB_STATE_NOTATTACHED) {
>>> - usb_unlock_device(udev);
>>> + device_lock_assert(&udev->dev);
>>> +
>>> + if (udev->state == USB_STATE_NOTATTACHED)
>>> return -ENODEV;
>>> - }
>>>
>>> if (udev->state == USB_STATE_SUSPENDED ||
>>> - udev->offload_at_suspend) {
>>> - usb_unlock_device(udev);
>>> + udev->offload_at_suspend)
>>> return -EBUSY;
>>> - }
>>>
>>
>> During your testing, did you ever run into any unbalanced counter issues
>> due to the above early exit conditions?
>>
>> I guess these are all just questions to see if we can remove the need to
>> lock the udev mutex, and move to a local mutex for the offload framework.
>> That would address the locking concerns being brought up by Greg, etc...
>>
>> Thanks
>> Wesley Cheng
>>
>
> While developing the initial patch set, I did encounter the counter imbalance.
>
> Following the discussion, we could move the device resume effort to
> the class driver. This way we only need to check if the device is
> active before manipulating the offload usage counter, which doesn't
> require a device lock. Is there any concern with this approach?
>
I think that is what I was getting to. Now, instead of having to rely on
the udev lock, you can protect the counter using a local mutex, which
should avoid the deadlock mentioned by Oppo. You can avoid also having the
class driver worry about locking requirements, etc..
Thanks
Wesley Cheng
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-19 0:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260309022205.28136-1-guanyulin@google.com>
2026-03-09 2:22 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] usb: offload: move device locking to callers in offload.c Guan-Yu Lin
2026-03-11 12:26 ` Greg KH
2026-03-12 17:23 ` Guan-Yu Lin
2026-03-17 21:17 ` Wesley Cheng
2026-03-18 23:21 ` Guan-Yu Lin
2026-03-19 0:24 ` Wesley Cheng [this message]
2026-03-09 2:22 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ALSA: usb: qcom: manage offload device usage Guan-Yu Lin
2026-03-11 12:31 ` Greg KH
2026-03-12 17:24 ` Guan-Yu Lin
2026-03-17 20:45 ` Guan-Yu Lin
2026-03-18 5:58 ` Greg KH
2026-03-18 23:29 ` Guan-Yu Lin
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