From: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao <fernando_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] nohz: use delayed iowait accounting to avoid race on idle time stats
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:42:28 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <534F2374.8090304@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140416093637.GR11182@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
(2014/04/16 18:36), Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 03:33:06PM +0900, Hidetoshi Seto wrote:
>> So we need 2 operations:
>> a) remove regression
>
> What regression; there's never been talk about a regression, just a bug
> found. AFAICT this 'regression' is ever since we introduced NOHZ or
> somesuch, which is very long ago indeed.
>
> And since its basically been broken forever, there's no rush what so
> ever.
Well, from a customer's view, when he upgrade his foobar enterprise
linux from version 5 to 6 (for example), he will say "it's a regression"
if something worked well in previous version have broken in new version
without any documents and/or technical notes etc.
That's why I used the word "regression" for this bug.
>> b) implement new iowait accounting mechanism
>>
>> What Frederic mentioned is that we don't need a) once if we invent
>> the solution for b). But I doubt it because a) is still required
>> for stable environment including some distributor's kernel.
>> It is clear that patches for b) will not be backportable.
>>
>> Still the b) is disease that has no known cure. There is no reason
>> to wait works on b) before starting works for a).
>
> As stated, there is no a). Its been forever broken. There is no urgency.
I just wrote my patches for my customer like above and for my salary ;-)
Thank you for your comments!
I'll post my v4 patch set soon.
Thanks,
H.Seto
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-17 0:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-10 9:07 [PATCH v3 0/2] nohz: fix idle accounting in NO_HZ kernels Hidetoshi Seto
2014-04-10 9:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] nohz: stop updating sleep stats from get_cpu_{idle,iowait}_time_us() Hidetoshi Seto
2014-04-15 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-15 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-10 9:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] nohz: use delayed iowait accounting to avoid race on idle time stats Hidetoshi Seto
2014-04-15 10:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-16 6:30 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2014-04-15 10:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-16 6:33 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2014-04-16 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-17 0:42 ` Hidetoshi Seto [this message]
2014-04-17 10:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-17 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-18 5:52 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2014-04-18 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-15 3:11 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] nohz: fix idle accounting in NO_HZ kernels Hidetoshi Seto
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