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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
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	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] user_namespaces.7: Update the documention to reflect the fixes for negative groups
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:37:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54CF99BF.8050401@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ppbo1ql4.fsf_-_@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

Hi Eric,

Thanks for writing this up!

On 12/12/2014 10:54 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> Files with access permissions such as ---rwx---rwx give fewer
> permissions to their group then they do to everyone else.  Which means
> dropping groups with setgroups(0, NULL) actually grants a process
> privileges.
> 
> The uprivileged setting of gid_map turned out not to be safe after
> this change.  Privilege setting of gid_map can be interpreted as
> meaning yes it is ok to drop groups.

I had trouble to parse that sentence (and I'd like to make sure that
the right sentence ends up in the commit message). Did you mean: 

    "*Unprivileged* setting of gid_map can be interpreted as meaning
     yes it is ok to drop groups"

?

Or something else?

> To prevent this problem and future problems user namespaces were
> changed in such a way as to guarantee a user can not obtain
> credentials without privilege they could not obtain without the
> help of user namespaces.
> 
> This meant testing the effective user ID and not the filesystem user
> ID as setresuid and setregid allow setting any process uid or gid
> (except the supplemental groups) to the effective ID.
> 
> Furthermore to preserve in some form the useful applications that have
> been setting gid_map without privilege the file /proc/[pid]/setgroups
> was added to allow disabling setgroups.  With the setgroups system
> call permanently disabled in a user namespace it again becomes safe to
> allow writes to gid_map without privilege.
> 
> Here is my meager attempt to update user_namespaces.7 to reflect these
> issues.

It looked pretty serviceable as patch, IMO. So, thanks again. I've applied,
tweaking some wordings afterward, but changing nothing essential. See below
for a question.

> Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> ---
>  man7/user_namespaces.7 | 52 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>  1 file changed, 49 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/man7/user_namespaces.7 b/man7/user_namespaces.7
> index d76721d9a0a1..f8333a762308 100644
> --- a/man7/user_namespaces.7
> +++ b/man7/user_namespaces.7
> @@ -533,11 +533,16 @@ One of the following is true:
>  The data written to
>  .I uid_map
>  .RI ( gid_map )
> -consists of a single line that maps the writing process's filesystem user ID
> +consists of a single line that maps the writing process's effective user ID
>  (group ID) in the parent user namespace to a user ID (group ID)
>  in the user namespace.
> -The usual case here is that this single line provides a mapping for user ID
> -of the process that created the namespace.
> +The writing process must have the same effective user ID as the process
> +that created the user namespace.
> +In the case of
> +.I gid_map
> +the
> +.I setgroups
> +file must have been written to earlier and disabled the setgroups system call.
>  .IP * 3
>  The opening process has the
>  .BR CAP_SETUID
> @@ -552,6 +557,47 @@ Writes that violate the above rules fail with the error
>  .\"
>  .\" ============================================================
>  .\"
> +.SS Interaction with system calls that change the uid or gid values
> +When in a user namespace where the
> +.I uid_map
> +or
> +.I gid_map
> +file has not been written the system calls that change user IDs
> +or group IDs respectively will fail.  After the
> +.I uid_map
> +and
> +.I gid_map
> +file have been written only the mapped values may be used in
> +system calls that change user IDs and group IDs.
> +
> +For user IDs these system calls include
> +.BR setuid ,
> +.BR setfsuid ,
> +.BR setreuid ,
> +and
> +.BR setresuid .
> +
> +For group IDs these system calls include
> +.BR setgid ,
> +.BR setfsgid ,
> +.BR setregid ,
> +.BR setresgid ,
> +and
> +.BR setgroups.
> +
> +Writing
> +.BR deny
> +to the
> +.I /proc/[pid]/setgroups
> +file before writing to
> +.I /proc/[pid]/gid_map
> +will permanently disable the setgroups system call in a user namespace
> +and allow writing to
> +.I /proc/[pid]/gid_map
> +without
> +.BR CAP_SETGID
> +in the parent user namespace.

I just want to double check: you really did mean to write "*parent* namespace"
above, right?

Thanks,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-02 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-29 17:26 [PATCH v2] userns: Disallow setgroups unless the gid_map writer is privileged Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 12:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 18:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 19:45     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 20:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 20:25         ` [CFT][PATCH 1/3] userns: Avoid problems with negative groups Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 20:28           ` [CFT][PATCH 2/3] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 20:30             ` [CFT][PATCH 3/3] userns: Unbreak the unprivileged remount tests Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 21:05             ` [CFT][PATCH 2/3] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 21:45               ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 22:17                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 23:07                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 23:17                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:06                       ` [CFT][PATCH 1/7] userns: Document what the invariant required for safe unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:07                         ` [CFT][PATCH 2/7] userns: Don't allow setgroups until a gid mapping has been setablished Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:11                           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                             ` <87h9x5ok0h.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-08 22:33                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:17                           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-08 22:25                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:27                               ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                                 ` <874mt5ojfh.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-08 22:47                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:07                         ` [CFT][PATCH 3/7] userns: Don't allow unprivileged creation of gid mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:08                         ` [CFT][PATCH 4/7] userns: Check euid no fsuid when establishing an unprivileged uid mapping Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:12                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:10                         ` [CFT][PATCH 5/7] userns: Only allow the creator of the userns unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:15                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:11                         ` [CFT][PATCH 6/7] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:21                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:44                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:48                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 23:30                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 19:31                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:36                                     ` [CFT][PATCH 1/8] userns: Document what the invariant required for safe unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:38                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 2/8] userns: Don't allow setgroups until a gid mapping has been setablished Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 22:49                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-09 20:39                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 3/8] userns: Don't allow unprivileged creation of gid mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 23:00                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-09 20:39                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 4/8] userns: Check euid no fsuid when establishing an unprivileged uid mapping Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:41                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 5/8] userns: Only allow the creator of the userns unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:41                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 6/8] userns: Rename id_map_mutex to userns_state_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 22:49                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-09 20:42                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 7/8] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 22:28                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                           ` <971ad3f6-90fd-4e3f-916c-8988af3c826d@email.android.com>
2014-12-10  0:21                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                               ` <87wq5zf83t.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                                                 ` <87iohh3c9c.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-12  1:30                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                   ` <8761dh3b7k.fsf_-_@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                                                     ` <878uicy1r9.fsf_-_@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-12 21:54                                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] proc.5: Document /proc/[pid]/setgroups Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-02 15:36                                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-11  8:01                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-11 13:51                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-12 13:53                                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-21  7:57                                                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-03-03 11:39                                                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-12-12 21:54                                                       ` [PATCH 2/2] user_namespaces.7: Update the documention to reflect the fixes for negative groups Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-02 15:37                                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2015-02-11  8:02                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-11 14:01                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-12 10:11                                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-02 21:31                                                         ` Alban Crequy
2015-03-04 14:00                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-12-09 20:43                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 8/8] userns: Allow setting gid_maps without privilege when setgroups is disabled Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-10 16:39                                       ` [CFT] Can I get some Tested-By's on this series? Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-10 22:48                                         ` Serge Hallyn
2014-12-10 22:50                                           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-10 23:19                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-11 19:27                                               ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-12  6:56                                               ` Chen, Hanxiao
2014-12-13 22:31                                           ` serge
     [not found]                                           ` <87lhmcy2et.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                                             ` <20141212220840.GF22091@castiana.ipv6.teksavvy.com>
     [not found]                                               ` <8761dgze56.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-15 19:38                                                 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-12-15 20:11                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-15 20:49                                                     ` Serge Hallyn
2014-12-16  2:05                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-16  9:23                                           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-08 22:14                         ` [CFT][PATCH 7/7] userns: Allow setting gid_maps without privilege when setgroups is disabled Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:26                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 20:58           ` [CFT][PATCH 1/3] userns: Avoid problems with negative groups Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 21:26             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 22:09               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 22:48                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 22:56                   ` Andy Lutomirski

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