From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/kvm: Disable KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 12:36:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e79facb-292d-eeae-b860-81a0bee9ef4c@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWG2Y4SPmVkugqgjZcMfpQiq=YgsYBmWBm1hj_qx3JNVQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 09/04/2020 05:50, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:01 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
>>> On 08/04/20 17:34, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 10:23:58AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>> Page-not-present async page faults are almost a perfect match for the
>>>>> hardware use of #VE (and it might even be possible to let the processor
>>>>> deliver the exceptions).
>>>> My "async" page fault knowledge is limited, but if the desired behavior is
>>>> to reflect a fault into the guest for select EPT Violations, then yes,
>>>> enabling EPT Violation #VEs in hardware is doable. The big gotcha is that
>>>> KVM needs to set the suppress #VE bit for all EPTEs when allocating a new
>>>> MMU page, otherwise not-present faults on zero-initialized EPTEs will get
>>>> reflected.
>>>>
>>>> Attached a patch that does the prep work in the MMU. The VMX usage would be:
>>>>
>>>> kvm_mmu_set_spte_init_value(VMX_EPT_SUPPRESS_VE_BIT);
>>>>
>>>> when EPT Violation #VEs are enabled. It's 64-bit only as it uses stosq to
>>>> initialize EPTEs. 32-bit could also be supported by doing memcpy() from
>>>> a static page.
>>> The complication is that (at least according to the current ABI) we
>>> would not want #VE to kick if the guest currently has IF=0 (and possibly
>>> CPL=0). But the ABI is not set in stone, and anyway the #VE protocol is
>>> a decent one and worth using as a base for whatever PV protocol we design.
>> Forget the current pf async semantics (or the lack of). You really want
>> to start from scratch and igore the whole thing.
>>
>> The charm of #VE is that the hardware can inject it and it's not nesting
>> until the guest cleared the second word in the VE information area. If
>> that word is not 0 then you get a regular vmexit where you suspend the
>> vcpu until the nested problem is solved.
> Can you point me at where the SDM says this?
Vol3 25.5.6.1 Convertible EPT Violations
> Anyway, I see two problems with #VE, one big and one small. The small
> (or maybe small) one is that any fancy protocol where the guest
> returns from an exception by doing, logically:
>
> Hey I'm done; /* MOV somewhere, hypercall, MOV to CR4, whatever */
> IRET;
>
> is fundamentally racy. After we say we're done and before IRET, we
> can be recursively reentered. Hi, NMI!
Correct. There is no way to atomically end the #VE handler. (This
causes "fun" even when using #VE for its intended purpose.)
~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-09 11:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-07 2:26 [PATCH v2] x86/kvm: Disable KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS Andy Lutomirski
2020-03-07 15:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-03-07 15:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-03-07 15:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-03-07 19:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-03-07 19:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-03-08 7:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-03-09 6:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-03-09 8:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-03-09 9:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-03-09 18:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-03-09 19:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-03-09 20:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-06 19:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-06 20:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-06 20:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-06 20:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-07 17:21 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-07 17:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-07 20:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-07 21:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-07 22:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-07 22:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-08 0:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-21 15:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-07 22:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-08 4:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-08 9:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-04-08 10:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-08 18:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-07 22:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-08 10:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-04-07 22:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-07 23:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-08 8:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-08 13:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-08 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-08 16:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-09 9:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-08 15:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-04-08 16:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-08 18:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-08 20:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-08 23:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-08 23:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-04-09 4:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-09 9:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-09 11:36 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2020-04-09 12:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-09 14:13 ` Andrew Cooper
2020-04-09 14:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-09 15:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-09 15:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-09 17:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-04-06 21:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
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