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From: Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: fix KASAN build error due to p*d_populate_kernel()
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 11:46:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8077d344-580b-431b-b7dc-a84dc4ba6b44@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79027c6f-f2f3-41b2-9ff3-c5576fc06c5c@intel.com>



On 8/22/25 7:08 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 8/21/25 18:11, Harry Yoo wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:36:12AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 8/21/25 04:57, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>>> However, {pgd,p4d}_populate_kernel() is defined as a function regardless
>>>> of the number of page table levels, so the compiler may not optimize
>>>> them away. In this case, the following linker error occurs:
>>
>> Hi, thanks for taking a look, Dave!
>>
>> First of all, this is a fix-up patch of a mm-hotfixes patch series that
>> fixes a bug (I should have explained that in the changelog) [1].
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250818020206.4517-1-harry.yoo@oracle.com
>>
>> I think we can continue discussing it and perhaps do that as part of
>> a follow-up series, because the current patch series need to be backported
>> to -stable and your suggestion to improve existing code doesn't require
>> -stable backports.
>>
>> Does that sound fine?
>>
>>> This part of the changelog confused me. I think it's focusing on the
>>> wrong thing.
>>>
>>> The code that's triggering this is literally:
>>>
>>>>                         pgd_populate(&init_mm, pgd,
>>>>                                         lm_alias(kasan_early_shadow_p4d));
>>>
>>> It sure _looks_ like it's unconditionally referencing the
>>> 'kasan_early_shadow_p4d' symbol. I think it's wrong to hide that with
>>> macro magic and just assume that the macros won't reference it.
>>>
>>> If a symbol isn't being defined, it shouldn't be referenced in C code.:q
>>
>> A fair point, and that's what KASAN code has been doing for years.
>>
>>> The right way to do it is to have an #ifdef in a header that avoids
>>> compiling in the reference to the symbol.
>>
>> You mean defining some wrapper functions for p*d_populate_kernel() in
>> KASAN with different implementations based on ifdeffery?
> 
> That would work.
> 
> So would something like:
> 
> #if CONFIG_PGTABLE_LEVELS >= 4
> extern p4d_t kasan_early_shadow_p4d[MAX_PTRS_PER_P4D];
> #else
> #define kasan_early_shadow_p4d NULL
> #endif
> 

This won't work. It will fix the linker error, but will introduce runtime bug instead:

lm_alias(kasan_early_shadow_p4d) -> __va(__phys_addr_symbol(NULL))

On arm64:

phys_addr_t __phys_addr_symbol(unsigned long x)
	VIRTUAL_BUG_ON(x < (unsigned long) KERNEL_START ||
		       x > (unsigned long) KERNEL_END);

And NULL is < KERNEL_START.

Since __phys_addr_symbol() isn't pure or const,  compiler has no right to eliminate such
call even though the return value is unused.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-25  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250818020206.4517-1-harry.yoo@oracle.com>
2025-08-18  2:02 ` [PATCH V5 mm-hotfixes 1/3] mm: move page table sync declarations to linux/pgtable.h Harry Yoo
2025-08-18  7:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-18  2:02 ` [PATCH V5 mm-hotfixes 2/3] mm: introduce and use {pgd,p4d}_populate_kernel() Harry Yoo
2025-08-18  7:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-21  9:35   ` [PATCH] mm: fix KASAN build error due to p*d_populate_kernel() Harry Yoo
2025-08-21  9:38     ` kernel test robot
2025-08-21 10:10     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-21 10:42       ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-21 11:46         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-21 11:57     ` [PATCH v2] " Harry Yoo
2025-08-21 12:00       ` kernel test robot
2025-08-21 17:36       ` Dave Hansen
2025-08-22  1:11         ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-22 16:02           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-08-27  6:30             ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-22 17:08           ` Dave Hansen
2025-08-25  9:46             ` Andrey Ryabinin [this message]
2025-08-22  2:07   ` [PATCH v3] " Harry Yoo
2025-08-18  2:02 ` [PATCH V5 mm-hotfixes 3/3] x86/mm/64: define ARCH_PAGE_TABLE_SYNC_MASK and arch_sync_kernel_mappings() Harry Yoo
2025-08-18  7:49   ` David Hildenbrand

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