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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, Ariadne Conill <ariadne@ariadne.space>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "ALSA: memalloc: Workaround for Xen PV"
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:38:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9eda21ac-2ce7-47d5-be49-65b941e76340@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877cbnewib.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

On 07/09/2024 8:46 am, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Sep 2024 20:42:09 +0200,
> Ariadne Conill wrote:
>> This patch attempted to work around a DMA issue involving Xen, but
>> causes subtle kernel memory corruption.
>>
>> When I brought up this patch in the XenDevel matrix channel, I was
>> told that it had been requested by the Qubes OS developers because
>> they were trying to fix an issue where the sound stack would fail
>> after a few hours of uptime.  They wound up disabling SG buffering
>> entirely instead as a workaround.
>>
>> Accordingly, I propose that we should revert this workaround patch,
>> since it causes kernel memory corruption and that the ALSA and Xen
>> communities should collaborate on fixing the underlying problem in
>> such a way that SG buffering works correctly under Xen.
>>
>> This reverts commit 53466ebdec614f915c691809b0861acecb941e30.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Ariadne Conill <ariadne@ariadne.space>
>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
>> Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
>> Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>> Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> The relevant code has been largely rewritten for 6.12, so please check
> the behavior with sound.git tree for-next branch.  I guess the same
> issue should happen as the Xen workaround was kept and applied there,
> too, but it has to be checked at first.
>
> If the issue is persistent with there, the fix for 6.12 code would be
> rather much simpler like the blow.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>
> --- a/sound/core/memalloc.c
> +++ b/sound/core/memalloc.c
> @@ -793,9 +793,6 @@ static void *snd_dma_sg_alloc(struct snd_dma_buffer *dmab, size_t size)
>  	int type = dmab->dev.type;
>  	void *p;
>  
> -	if (cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_XENPV))
> -		return snd_dma_sg_fallback_alloc(dmab, size);
> -
>  	/* try the standard DMA API allocation at first */
>  	if (type == SNDRV_DMA_TYPE_DEV_WC_SG)
>  		dmab->dev.type = SNDRV_DMA_TYPE_DEV_WC;
>
>

Individual subsystems ought not to know or care about XENPV; it's a
layering violation.

If the main APIs don't behave properly, then it probably means we've got
a bug at a lower level (e.g. Xen SWIOTLB is a constant source of fun)
which is probably affecting other subsystems too.

I think we need to re-analyse the original bug.  Right now, the
behaviour resulting from 53466ebde is worse than what it was trying to fix.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-07 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-06 18:42 [PATCH] Revert "ALSA: memalloc: Workaround for Xen PV" Ariadne Conill
2024-09-07  7:46 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-09-07 10:38   ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2024-09-07 10:56     ` Takashi Iwai
2024-09-09 20:02     ` Elliott Mitchell
2024-09-10 11:17       ` Takashi Iwai
2024-09-25  0:48         ` Elliott Mitchell
2024-09-12  9:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-16  7:16       ` Takashi Iwai
2024-09-16  7:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-16  7:30           ` Takashi Iwai
2024-09-16  7:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-16  8:20               ` Takashi Iwai

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