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From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>, <mapengyu@gmail.com>,
	<stable@vger.kernel.org>, "Mimi Zohar" <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Peter Huewe" <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>, <keyrings@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/5] tpm: flush the auth session only when /dev/tpm0 is open
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:07:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D4EPQPFA8RGN.2PO6UNTDFI6IT@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00cf0bdb3ebfaec7c4607c8c09e55f2e538402f1.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Tue Sep 24, 2024 at 4:43 PM EEST, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sat, 2024-09-21 at 15:08 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > Instead of flushing and reloading the auth session for every single
> > transaction, keep the session open unless /dev/tpm0 is used. In
> > practice this means applying TPM2_SA_CONTINUE_SESSION to the session
> > attributes. Flush the session always when /dev/tpm0 is written.
>
> Patch looks fine but this description is way too terse to explain how
> it works.
>
> I would suggest:
>
> Boot time elongation as a result of adding sessions has been reported
> as an issue in https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219229
>
> The root cause is the addition of session overhead to
> tpm2_pcr_extend().  This overhead can be reduced by not creating and
> destroying a session for each invocation of the function.  Do this by
> keeping a session resident in the TPM for reuse by any session based
> TPM command.  The current flow of TPM commands in the kernel supports
> this because tpm2_end_session() is only called for tpm errors because
> most commands don't continue the session and expect the session to be
> flushed on success.  Thus we can add the continue session flag to
> session creation to ensure the session won't be flushed except on
> error, which is a rare case.

I need to disagree on this as I don't even have PCR extends in my
boot sequence and it still adds overhead. Have you verified this
from the reporter?

There's bunch of things that use auth session, like trusted keys.
Making such claim that PCR extend is the reason is nonsense.

BR, Jarkko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-24 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240921120811.1264985-1-jarkko@kernel.org>
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] tpm: Return on tpm2_create_null_primary() failure Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-03 14:57   ` Stefan Berger
2024-10-07 23:47     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] tpm: Implement tpm2_load_null() rollback Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-10-03 15:27   ` Stefan Berger
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] tpm: flush the null key only when /dev/tpm0 is accessed Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] tpm: Allocate chip->auth in tpm2_start_auth_session() Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 13:33   ` James Bottomley
2024-09-24 16:13     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 18:13     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-21 12:08 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] tpm: flush the auth session only when /dev/tpm0 is open Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 13:43   ` James Bottomley
2024-09-24 16:13     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 18:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2024-09-24 18:40       ` James Bottomley
2024-09-24 21:35         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 21:51           ` James Bottomley
2024-09-25  7:42             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-25  7:46               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-25  7:53                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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