From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C55C433F5 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2022 06:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229593AbiBRGmc (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Feb 2022 01:42:32 -0500 Received: from mxb-00190b01.gslb.pphosted.com ([23.128.96.19]:54676 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230321AbiBRGmb (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Feb 2022 01:42:31 -0500 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1ACD857B3B; Thu, 17 Feb 2022 22:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB1CE61EB3; Fri, 18 Feb 2022 06:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B4EA1C340E9; Fri, 18 Feb 2022 06:42:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1645166533; bh=HjMR23aoxKQWFwKcEqaYH5QVua1wOqAfuXyH1CKbZzw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=MW6EycTUDLx3IFunE3hebSFuuTaWWEimw6dLZnfr6JEmtAnu7nxVxUXEid+tgJtYv Vz4bBVvBRbZaE2CZbJHvobefOmDMOinPQVXkOGYVuIrZY/ykRYTFh2yKINs4f1jHLP GZz3bBpOGOquaHzB4/J94Sbv9uLGCnWArZrmFB2M= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 07:42:07 +0100 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Pavel Machek Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, lwn@lwn.net, jslaby@suse.cz Subject: Re: Linux 4.4.302 Message-ID: References: <1643877137240249@kroah.com> <20220217205550.GA21004@duo.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220217205550.GA21004@duo.ucw.cz> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: stable@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 09:55:50PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > I'm announcing the release of the 4.4.302 kernel. > > > > This kernel branch is now END-OF-LIFE. It will not be getting any more > > updates from the kernel stable team, and will most likely quickly become > > insecure and out-of-date. Do not use it anymore unless you really know > > what you are doing. > > > > Note, the CIP project at https://www.cip-project.org/ is considering to > > maintain the 4.4 branch in a limited capability going forward. If you > > really need to use this kernel version, please contact them. > > Yes, please; feel free to contact us. > > Greg, we'll likely keep maintaining "stable 4.4.X" separately from > "stable + changes for cip hardware, aka 4.4.X-cipY". Would it be okay > if we simply kept tagging those kernels as 4.4.303 / 4.4.304 / ...? No, please do not. Just call them 4.4.302-cipY as there is no need to even attempt to keep 4.4 alive for non-cip platforms at all anymore. If you were to keep incrementing the number, that will cause confusion and people would think that it would be a general-purpose release like was previously done, when that is going to be impossible for you all to keep alive. > CIP project is committed to maintain 4.4.x kernel till January of 2027 > [1]. We are maintaining -cip branch [2], that is stable kernel with about > 1000 of patches to support our reference hardware [3] and -cip-rt > branch, with is merge of -rt and -cip trees. Hah, good luck! > If you for some reason need 4.4.x with bug and security fixes, and are > running similar hardware to our reference hardware (x86-64 and armv7), > -cip tree may be good base for that work. Testing of the -cip tree is > welcome, as is joining the CIP project. I agree, people should join the CIP project and work with you all if they really want to keep using 4.4 thanks, greg k-h