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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: AUTOSEL process
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 16:02:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZAzsV5qkfxu3nxjv@sashalap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZAzh7l8qWtkeh/KK@sol.localdomain>

On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 12:17:50PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
>On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 01:26:57PM -0500, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> I'm getting a bunch of suggestions and complaints that I'm not implementing
>> those suggestions fast enough on my spare time.
>
>BTW, the "I don't have enough time" argument is also a little frustrating
>because you are currently insisting on doing AUTOSEL at all, at the current
>sensitivity that picks up way too many commits.  I can certainly imagine that
>that uses a lot of your time!  But, many contributors are telling you that
>AUTOSEL is actually *worse than nothing* currently.
>
>So to some extent this is a self-inflicted problem.  You are *choosing* to spend
>your precious time running in-place with something that is not working well,
>instead of putting AUTOSEL on pause or turning down the sensitivity to free up
>time while improvements to the process are worked on.
>
>(And yes, I know there are many stable patches besides AUTOSEL, and it's a lot
>of work, and I'm grateful for what you do.  I am *just* talking about AUTOSEL
>here.  And yes, I agree that AUTOSEL is needed in principle, so there's no need
>to re-hash the arguments for why it exists.  It just needs some improvements.)

Just to make sure I'm sending the right message: I'd *love* to improve
it, but I need help. I'm not pushing back on your ideas, I'm asking for
help with their implementation.

Maybe I'm putting words in Greg's mouth, but I think we both would
ideally want to standardize around a single set of tools and scripts,
it's just the case that both of us started with different set of
problems we were trying to solve, and so our tooling evolved
independently.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-11 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-26  3:42 [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 01/21] ARM: OMAP2+: omap4-common: Fix refcount leak bug Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 02/21] arm64: dts: qcom: msm8996: Add additional A2NoC clocks Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 03/21] udf: Define EFSCORRUPTED error code Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 04/21] context_tracking: Fix noinstr vs KASAN Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 05/21] exit: Detect and fix irq disabled state in oops Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 06/21] ARM: dts: exynos: Use Exynos5420 compatible for the MIPI video phy Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 07/21] fs: Use CHECK_DATA_CORRUPTION() when kernel bugs are detected Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 08/21] blk-iocost: fix divide by 0 error in calc_lcoefs() Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 09/21] blk-cgroup: dropping parent refcount after pd_free_fn() is done Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 10/21] blk-cgroup: synchronize pd_free_fn() from blkg_free_workfn() and blkcg_deactivate_policy() Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 11/21] trace/blktrace: fix memory leak with using debugfs_lookup() Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 12/21] fs/super.c: stop calling fscrypt_destroy_keyring() from __put_super() Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  4:07   ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-26  5:30     ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-26 19:24       ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-26 19:33         ` Slade Watkins
2023-02-27 14:18         ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-27 17:47           ` AUTOSEL process Eric Biggers
2023-02-27 18:06             ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-27 20:39               ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-27 21:38                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-27 22:35                   ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-27 22:59                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-28  0:52                       ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-28  1:25                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-28  4:25                           ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-30  0:08                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-30 14:05                           ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-30 17:22                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-30 17:50                               ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-28  0:32                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-28  1:53                       ` Sasha Levin
2023-02-28  3:41                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-02-28 10:41                           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-02-28 11:28                             ` Greg KH
2023-03-01  2:05                               ` Slade Watkins
2023-03-01  5:13                                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-01  6:09                                   ` Greg KH
2023-03-01  7:22                                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-01  7:40                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-01  8:31                                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-01  8:43                                           ` Greg KH
2023-03-01  6:06                                 ` Greg KH
2023-03-01  7:05                                   ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-01 10:31                               ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-03-01 13:26                               ` Mark Brown
2023-02-28 17:03                           ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-10 23:07                           ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 13:41                             ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-11 15:54                               ` James Bottomley
2023-03-11 18:07                                 ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-12 19:03                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-07 21:18               ` Pavel Machek
2023-03-07 21:45                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11  6:25                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-11  8:11                     ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 11:45                       ` Pavel Machek
2023-03-11 12:29                         ` Greg KH
2023-03-21 12:41                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-03-11 14:06                     ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-11 16:16                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-11 17:48                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 18:26                           ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-11 18:54                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 19:01                               ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 21:14                               ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-12  8:04                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-03-12 16:00                                   ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-13 17:41                               ` Greg KH
2023-03-13 18:54                                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-14 18:26                                   ` Greg KH
2023-03-11 20:17                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 21:02                               ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2023-03-12  4:23                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 18:33                           ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 19:24                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 19:46                               ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-11 20:19                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 20:59                                   ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-11 20:11                               ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-11 20:53                                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-12  4:32                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-12  5:21                                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-12  5:48                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-12  7:42                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-03-12 13:34                                         ` Mark Brown
2023-03-12 15:57                                         ` Sasha Levin
2023-03-12 13:55                                 ` Mark Brown
2023-03-11 22:38                       ` David Laight
2023-03-12  4:41                         ` Willy Tarreau
2023-03-12  5:09                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-14 14:12                             ` Jan Kara
2023-03-13  3:37             ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 13/21] sched/fair: sanitize vruntime of entity being placed Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 14/21] btrfs: scrub: improve tree block error reporting Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 15/21] arm64: zynqmp: Enable hs termination flag for USB dwc3 controller Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 16/21] cpuidle, intel_idle: Fix CPUIDLE_FLAG_INIT_XSTATE Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 17/21] entry, kasan, x86: Disallow overriding mem*() functions Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 18/21] x86/fpu: Don't set TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD for PF_IO_WORKER threads Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 19/21] cpuidle: drivers: firmware: psci: Dont instrument suspend code Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 20/21] cpuidle: lib/bug: Disable rcu_is_watching() during WARN/BUG Sasha Levin
2023-02-26  3:42 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 6.1 21/21] perf/x86/intel/uncore: Add Meteor Lake support Sasha Levin

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