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From: Tyler Stachecki <stachecki.tyler@gmail.com>
To: Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	dgilbert@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, bp@alien8.de,
	Tyler Stachecki <tstachecki@bloomberg.net>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kvm: Account for fpstate->user_xfeatures changes
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 05:11:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQLOVjLtFnGESG0S@luigi.stachecki.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZQKzKkDEsY1n9dB1@redhat.com>

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 04:15:54AM -0300, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> So, IIUC, the xfeatures from the source guest will be different than the 
> xfeatures of the target (destination) guest. Is that correct?

Correct.
 
> It does not seem right to me. I mean, from the guest viewpoint, some 
> features will simply vanish during execution, and this could lead to major 
> issues in the guest.

My assumption is that the guest CPU model should confine access to registers
that make sense for that (guest) CPU.

e.g., take a host CPU capable of AVX-512 running a guest CPU model that only
has AVX-256. If the guest suddenly loses the top 256 bits of %zmm*, it should
not really be perceivable as %ymm architecturally remains unchanged.

Though maybe I'm being too rash here? Is there a case where this assumption
breaks down?

> The idea here is that if the target (destination) host can't provide those 
> features for the guest, then migration should fail.
> 
> I mean, qemu should fail the migration, and that's correct behavior.
> Is it what is happening?

Unfortunately, no, it is not... and that is biggest concern right now.

I do see some discussion between Peter and you on this topic and see that
there was an RFC to implement such behavior stemming from it, here:
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20220607230645.53950-1-peterx@redhat.com/

... though I do not believe that work ever landed in the tree. Looking at
qemu's master branch now, the error from kvm_arch_put_registers is just
discarded in do_kvm_cpu_synchronize_post_init...

```
static void do_kvm_cpu_synchronize_post_init(CPUState *cpu, run_on_cpu_data arg)
{
    kvm_arch_put_registers(cpu, KVM_PUT_FULL_STATE);
    cpu->vcpu_dirty = false;
}
```

Best,
Tyler

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-14  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-14  1:00 [PATCH] x86/kvm: Account for fpstate->user_xfeatures changes Tyler Stachecki
2023-09-14  1:33 ` Tyler Stachecki
2023-09-14  7:15 ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-14  9:11   ` Tyler Stachecki [this message]
2023-09-14 17:05     ` Dongli Zhang
2023-09-15  0:58       ` Tyler Stachecki
2023-09-15  7:41         ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-15 12:27           ` Tyler Stachecki
2023-09-25 21:26             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-26  3:02               ` Tyler Stachecki
2023-09-26 16:31                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-26 17:31                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-26 19:22                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-26 20:27                     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-15  7:13       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-15  7:11     ` Leonardo Bras

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