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From: Carlos Llamas <cmllamas@google.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	"Todd Kjos" <tkjos@android.com>,
	"Martijn Coenen" <maco@android.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Yu-Ting Tseng" <yutingtseng@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] binder: fix OOB in binder_add_freeze_work()
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 18:06:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZvRRJiRe7zwyPeY7@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLggK3qZCXezUPg-xodUqeWRsVwZw=ywenvLAtfVRD3AgHw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 07:52:37PM +0200, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > > I reviewed some other code paths to verify whether there are other
> > > problems with processes dying concurrently with operations on freeze
> > > notifications. I didn't notice any other memory safety issues, but I
> >
> > Yeah most other paths are protected with binder_procs_lock mutex.
> >
> > > noticed that binder_request_freeze_notification returns EINVAL if you
> > > try to use it with a node from a dead process. That seems problematic,
> > > as this means that there's no way to invoke that command without
> > > risking an EINVAL error if the remote process dies. We should not
> > > return EINVAL errors on correct usage of the driver.
> >
> > Agreed, this should probably be -ESRCH or something. I'll add it to v2,
> > thanks for the suggestion.
> 
> Well, maybe? I think it's best to not return errnos from these
> commands at all, as they obscure how many commands were processed.

This is problematic, particularly when it's a multi-command buffer.
Userspace doesn't really know which one failed and if any of them
succeeded. Agreed.

> 
> Since the node still exists even if the process dies, perhaps we can
> just let you create the freeze notification even if it's dead? We can
> make it end up in the same state as if you request a freeze
> notification and the process then dies afterwards.

It's a dead node, there is no process associated with it. It would be
incorrect to setup the notification as it doesn't have a frozen status
anymore. We can't determine the ref->node->proc->is_frozen?

We could silently fail and skip the notification, but I don't know if
userspace will attempt to release it later... and fail with EINVAL.

--
Carlos Llamas

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-25 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-24 18:43 [PATCH 0/4] binder: several fixes for frozen notification Carlos Llamas
2024-09-24 18:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] binder: fix node UAF in binder_add_freeze_work() Carlos Llamas
2024-09-25  2:58   ` Todd Kjos
2024-09-25  8:03   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-24 18:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] binder: fix OOB " Carlos Llamas
2024-09-25  3:03   ` Todd Kjos
2024-09-25  8:02   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-25 17:48     ` Carlos Llamas
2024-09-25 17:52       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-25 18:06         ` Carlos Llamas [this message]
2024-09-25 18:09           ` Carlos Llamas
2024-09-26  8:06           ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-26 14:39             ` Carlos Llamas
2024-09-24 18:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] binder: fix freeze UAF in binder_release_work() Carlos Llamas
2024-09-25  0:52   ` Todd Kjos
2024-09-25  8:03   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-24 18:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] binder: fix BINDER_WORK_FROZEN_BINDER debug logs Carlos Llamas
2024-09-25  0:43   ` Todd Kjos
2024-09-25  7:36   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-25 17:25     ` Carlos Llamas
2024-09-26  3:54       ` Carlos Llamas

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