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From: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrei Vagin <avagin@google.com>,
	Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>, Alexey Gladkov <legion@kernel.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] signal: restore the override_rlimit logic
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:38:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZyU8UNKLNfAi-U8F@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfmi3f8b.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>

On Fri, Nov 01, 2024 at 02:51:00PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> writes:
> 
> > Prior to commit d64696905554 ("Reimplement RLIMIT_SIGPENDING on top of
> > ucounts") UCOUNT_RLIMIT_SIGPENDING rlimit was not enforced for a class
> > of signals. However now it's enforced unconditionally, even if
> > override_rlimit is set.
> 
> Not true.
> 
> It added a limit on the number of siginfo structures that
> a container may allocate.  Have you tried not limiting your
> container?
> 
> >This behavior change caused production issues.
> 
> > For example, if the limit is reached and a process receives a SIGSEGV
> > signal, sigqueue_alloc fails to allocate the necessary resources for the
> > signal delivery, preventing the signal from being delivered with
> > siginfo. This prevents the process from correctly identifying the fault
> > address and handling the error. From the user-space perspective,
> > applications are unaware that the limit has been reached and that the
> > siginfo is effectively 'corrupted'. This can lead to unpredictable
> > behavior and crashes, as we observed with java applications.
> 
> Note.  There are always conditions when the allocation may fail.
> The structure is allocated with __GFP_ATOMIC so it is much more likely
> to fail than a typical kernel memory allocation.
> 
> But I agree it does look like there is a quality of implementation issue
> here.
> 
> > Fix this by passing override_rlimit into inc_rlimit_get_ucounts() and
> > skip the comparison to max there if override_rlimit is set. This
> > effectively restores the old behavior.
> 
> Instead please just give the container and unlimited number of siginfo
> structures it can play with.

Well, personally I'd not use this limit too, but I don't think
"it's broken, userspace shouldn't use it" argument is valid.

> 
> The maximum for rlimit(RLIM_SIGPENDING) is the rlimit(RLIM_SIGPENDING)
> value when the user namespace is created.
> 
> Given that it took 3 and half years to report this.  I am going to
> say this really looks like a userspace bug.

The trick here is another bug fixed by https://lkml.org/lkml/2024/10/31/185.
Basically it's a leak of the rlimit value.
If a limit is set and reached in the reality, all following signals
will not have a siginfo attached, causing applications which depend on
handling SIGSEGV to crash.

> Beyond that your patch is actually buggy, and should not be applied.
> 
> If we want to change the semantics and ignore the maximum number of
> pending signals in a container (when override_rlimit is set) then
> the code should change the computation of the max value (pegging it at
> LONG_MAX) and not ignore it.

Hm, isn't the unconditional (new < 0) enough to capture the overflow?
Actually I'm not sure I understand how "long new" can be "> LONG_MAX"
anyway.

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-01 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-31 20:04 [PATCH] signal: restore the override_rlimit logic Roman Gushchin
2024-11-01 19:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-11-01 20:38   ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2024-11-01 20:58     ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-11-01 21:21       ` Roman Gushchin
2024-11-01 22:44       ` Andrei Vagin
2024-11-02 16:26         ` Alexey Gladkov
2024-11-03 16:50           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-11-04 18:21             ` Roman Gushchin
2024-11-04 18:44               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-11-04 19:02                 ` Alexey Gladkov
2024-11-04 19:42                   ` Roman Gushchin
2024-11-01 23:28 ` Alexey Gladkov
2024-11-01 23:50   ` Roman Gushchin
2024-11-02 13:46     ` Alexey Gladkov

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