From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mgamail.intel.com (mgamail.intel.com [192.198.163.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 746B52ECD09 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2025 21:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=fail smtp.client-ip=192.198.163.17 ARC-Seal:i=2; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1752702134; cv=fail; b=ucYDC/CIqdgbFh44cPesH0HyAS7nemSb6mSAD2wWntruavxrNN3C8iv13nx4uKYQDMp0Vq7UJB7tnvzS+pyrWT+bgl11O/C9fqubaw3FowSvlyKnWEquSCd/hUEPu8DCJJPRXyQD35QD1piIGsmWfT3S5aJu98lKn/oewq8kPNA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=2; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1752702134; c=relaxed/simple; bh=y2RcSiu8O44K36jVMUY5PqJ//jPkJzpknNVtqlk3XDc=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:Message-ID:References:Content-Type: Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version; b=Ct/yAm8xGUEjoa8x1YcaOBi1VgybZMQzmlmU7szjupsx7SmIgtjolfHKXoMrSoLkV3mRrdRL2iukmFIlCnJT4hfEL3gJIkBnmjISnh5QhuZRkMiYAIuHx9u8BcqLrUwqR1mIHq9ZRCobi2CA6Ll/DtstVzwAZ3eoSImjyZ4C61o= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=2; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=intel.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=intel.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=intel.com header.i=@intel.com header.b=ADcZU4nX; arc=fail smtp.client-ip=192.198.163.17 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=intel.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=intel.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=intel.com header.i=@intel.com header.b="ADcZU4nX" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intel.com; i=@intel.com; q=dns/txt; s=Intel; t=1752702133; x=1784238133; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references: content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=y2RcSiu8O44K36jVMUY5PqJ//jPkJzpknNVtqlk3XDc=; b=ADcZU4nXGci7UCmid9kjkUiCuibIjQbEoxP698Ecl3HCng5Fo96nyKpd whbaPp1hoeRecDxrQlAeHgk2uyi304R7xP/u/rpowv7VkeeItBAVnh6+8 m/2hCY+6xNCXIrcevowKo+awyPykC3VaeYHkRgq2jP04EYzgV6HJws9VC akIIRPO+nxGYmubdNUn13yibE303Axl+C1v112zIRLOqAcbSUZd6bHTIG 305YKH384rgq9Yqd0D8Di+/Ad89CGozY4o+2JkNYvNAwCB0niC8JN/5OK Qz1RDVMjpdTkTCZJzJWef8HGr5cLNj0ihirwnWYtlUyZRFoyGgwGOvzRl A==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: zh7Eo4QfTrqjeQKZF9ASLg== X-CSE-MsgGUID: b2Gzi3j4TXmunc5zvIKibg== X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6800,10657,11493"; a="54902067" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.16,316,1744095600"; d="scan'208";a="54902067" Received: from orviesa010.jf.intel.com ([10.64.159.150]) by fmvoesa111.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 16 Jul 2025 14:42:10 -0700 X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: 1AjEFPWeQ+eyUb25vXq/Bg== X-CSE-MsgGUID: x9Y4BwlsRlSMU8tEZ70X7w== X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.16,316,1744095600"; d="scan'208";a="157018260" Received: from orsmsx903.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.229.25]) by orviesa010.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 16 Jul 2025 14:42:10 -0700 Received: from ORSMSX901.amr.corp.intel.com (10.22.229.23) by ORSMSX903.amr.corp.intel.com (10.22.229.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.1748.26; Wed, 16 Jul 2025 14:42:09 -0700 Received: from ORSEDG901.ED.cps.intel.com (10.7.248.11) by ORSMSX901.amr.corp.intel.com (10.22.229.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.1748.26 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 16 Jul 2025 14:42:09 -0700 Received: from NAM12-MW2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (40.107.244.79) by edgegateway.intel.com (134.134.137.111) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.1748.26; Wed, 16 Jul 2025 14:42:08 -0700 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector10001; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=YTVIZv6h4ZN3NAjbhqJOXRfV7s5NhRs5NTNQoKmL0KO3Mm6bkc01h4nnrBG5drbrt7EcUEYmkmLHnnqxPr5wKabM5bXrV0f+LLc/6KNDfHBCY9gzpAtJ/Chp/xH4kFZOttplCLSWbsv7HSq9qyqcsiPz3Z2sKUEBrvpSYpHu0lV1mK/cTVtPTT9mK00w+X7V3sFNlyx5UZOWtvjUYOXDC3zgY9AY/4ZZPQ3m8Eazc60uANfwTByy/W6K44jkCLuXyv7R5bR1UZc6USUsIJ6/v7qAPD9w3UTD619kThmPzPbjcYhg15BEGtbntE1V6ucvMPQ+CsIQuyQzps/Ekr7PMg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector10001; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=AcMdO7AdL67e6fEH1xp66xY4vWVM0KwKLdG5D675/4E=; b=bHLVoq1SyC2MBCNoKJeZhYUMflsRkPiz8igUApf0YwKWHwEq0K2w9cnG0fxXyLwf6g2UZXzFMFiYSbsoY+c4S5dpYKgYjZLzdVxwvrn7eB/08w+iGnyAyn9qQVvwu0uA8lb0rBjxQQqR77kJ0sDcgCEDO+tfFu0QbP0weh4QEfqBlOoY+pBPhoAPMPR1Tz2XTI/O0zMMkMHotykS4VXD/1k3jNWhroRdawcZ12ynKR0bagjgG/809fBAugnWWaYLViSR8GyOa13HK+MPjO+hhUUuLMZri85DSu7KpQqWEkTDWjZ9/8MNgjwNV3uFiG6lgyF+kXa1EGyfNDV8FqoSBA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=intel.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=intel.com; dkim=pass header.d=intel.com; arc=none Authentication-Results: dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=none action=none header.from=intel.com; Received: from SJ0PR11MB4845.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:2d1::10) by BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:408:135::18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.8901.28; Wed, 16 Jul 2025 21:41:38 +0000 Received: from SJ0PR11MB4845.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::8900:d137:e757:ac9f]) by SJ0PR11MB4845.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::8900:d137:e757:ac9f%6]) with mapi id 15.20.8922.028; Wed, 16 Jul 2025 21:41:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 00:41:32 +0300 From: Imre Deak To: Ville =?iso-8859-1?Q?Syrj=E4l=E4?= CC: , , Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] drm/i915/dp: Fix 2.7 Gbps DP_LINK_BW value on g4x Message-ID: Reply-To: References: <20250710201718.25310-1-ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> <20250710201718.25310-2-ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-ClientProxiedBy: DU6P191CA0016.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10a6:10:540::10) To SJ0PR11MB4845.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:2d1::10) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: stable@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: SJ0PR11MB4845:EE_|BN9PR11MB5276:EE_ X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 67ebc89f-77ae-4893-4552-08ddc4b18b4a X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-Relay: 0 X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;ARA:13230040|1800799024|366016|10070799003|376014|7053199007; X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: =?iso-8859-1?Q?qTRHIwnp8TMceJhwTQGo52DPZaQ/M4Z1oUXpRi5kHU0lrO9zyyfskwXCfw?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?smcspcOyadj9fqAT9acSMG0ZFpwEND9jaxqCcXZo7Q8lZAflN4IOv2uxvd?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?5uX4eHVJtL2eFnbzbRcUYnCSOK2nAEq8D3q3ZtsW5h5/Je5jAafepQntGP?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?uPEN//uV9YB+FxGwIqC74JC+tyqu1c97QTOjiTzYi9QquJZ7dXlV7EceMS?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?1dsAOa1Yn/g/Uub2fM/QQobpeTDmLGxa65+RZeCdGlrkM2jv0D/Jzi6xs/?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?hA7itQP2A0mA0AT+XrapIof3dMJu0BJAEVpxR1X4CeIfRtqDfB2pVAqI4a?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?9MFw9nPTXyHvqCRmZQJHdZ474ficN3y7ynbDehZtbIVpThOvRwQ/FVX+sR?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?gM2wqfKpeqaHQdw3VKaaTLXDeBw3Yvj8xhsWz/HD7Mvlze3oXDieTuW42+?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?7n69jdOyE0DR1DUWp2HIVEdNociOskKFj5snfO2zT2D3+Tfy4JtcL4/PR1?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?uGf2z0D0uaSS1k2Em9sZGRFNZe/TxiFdvhNx/0Oog2v1BE0gaXSGTmSuje?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?zKXCClCqOHIDTzQKTGdw3Sz6fpboia59rmbwOSuS8eDCGujOyxzvFqnpiG?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?HSiyidwTSuYCh7cSS+TEwvEmHXm/n8YOCJ1tY7fE79DPAX1BXp6FkHVWRr?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?FH/6POvWkrR4aEnUMyTEdxfdGfYbrQN+T8TVuFhsbDTCZYPbelBnhsO25/?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?quLcuRD7bKy1EIcC65rZGqAMpwdNYgnTGfSlei0r+i/Iw7in7E7CTNlV1N?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?SNcYyE5Z94HfP0M74R7zRqfPLSrlX6dxsmtg5N4J24L+FlgEFMheJJcJtA?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?tpbg//zViS6Kq8gqs91U7FFu9eyWJrCAEeptWJ1m9T9A0gudUt5oJFJSQd?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?/aD+KmGkjB37vRxqmvKr6JKvxU91tFPeVYl63EEnWC7hyGe6w2iAwe+qp6?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?4FWDocFM1TJGNb6ilKrN62BRch9806gNlnf29MiCZKP7Lay36w7Lq3sbYp?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nq7b8ckpDusurgRFEVTXIixNirN13t61IRkndyd0JqdIz2cvoaaBkCE5xX?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?d7eO/wOktilqK4WCMWZug3wRh2jR8CInf19H6lU9fDnznGb9uqzOV9Zej7?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?nJPcu2NMp+nSLqrsBFDbfu6MoUWS93pBg8ku/ojLvnhVFwSfZu5T3DJmt7?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?bubaZWJFJtzCnpGY1KvHkc6oqP0sEPI2HQBY1w8FYVMqErBhIL2sOGBJWK?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?FeW+h90HBfBWqyPUfBx1tCiJbMY8tth5irRUgLLtjSc0/Rat/fKcT5QQUf?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?pV/7Nm21AdSrf2zEAud/gp5Zh7meVyU3Q/BgRcPX/dHiMs2j4aeEeZ5KZQ?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?q4mVeV8llYC9PHfAVhJVCqBkn9ffBG2Q0mC19w=3D=3D?= X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255;CTRY:;LANG:en;SCL:1;SRV:;IPV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;H:SJ0PR11MB4845.namprd11.prod.outlook.com;PTR:;CAT:NONE;SFS:(13230040)(1800799024)(366016)(10070799003)(376014)(7053199007);DIR:OUT;SFP:1101; X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0: =?iso-8859-1?Q?qE4kaxC4bzMLalyjc/WyAJb0Og7K6PvzzzYwttATLHzjkqmgQkfzKufcyp?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?BU7rpER1E+LWPrS8m5Ajvr/VcFbwACde18DXfeArNxk5uE9QCZJ0SQAJOh?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?pyt6tfiF9ASWxz58FLYI6Fbhy9tjU3LvZS2v76xrf//4afZ++vWIDWSAX/?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?gEzRZtCKy/jSo0YYLCJ/kL4jZlbq9gKBxoeHzJ7jKwZ5ttH0hRNndUUyD7?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?qr3Q2cGUq7ecc1K9N4RWRQ7Z4IiZRg1EvYPeps/PcIw+8Lxdwufqk+4I8K?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pc0ZYjjk3QJRbnGBqRHQiwvKy6FC+xzD7Y8EKErE2bCx4vSSI4HXliiVos?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?frlz9izn364puqdeqdRV98ZX5TyoYoh0Hl5CSSsUMY01yICU5L4WcsmfK5?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Zba8iydLGN6C/G0H5w/36ilVOY3CLKoPH+zujUFhlzuPv2BTZhZgS86xc9?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?8z8rpbjz7FGjC6zjD9g/+ACniSKubkdRmTpdbCHX/6zaOrxb86Z9FQMG7u?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?pvMVOo70kFM+f7igf3Bp4xK4lSSIBxRO2LEBix8rWg8mpZGzIZZ2ZWagup?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?D80UFXv/WqF2ckW+/SaAC1xOmSfrJSCLYt21nPfiUdAyFh8VhuIyS8qVBg?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?8pTEG+1IkJv7qO2z2qu1OcTQ/fv9vl7SCy6qOdU4lPonDaAPVtmx3tc8mr?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?u7vIcTQ3uX9/sbZsNgvR6bLi074Zk4AUGPkFVNs3eKZgLK3n1Kx4wErQtb?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?cbD71mezs1iv+oIFvSN9JsoX3mJmNa0db8V6TOdIE6fEFKu7PYiGXSSl78?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ENP2Gmu+V1mmqst7q5XCEgKKFDG8cOLZ1fJ0cLCo9fxx0CoD+G4hUhSPsJ?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?tzGheTjM916FdYTDyk5rK7vPIH3/kwGZ2Q9fI3oGim1LOmmQW2mVN58H5I?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?eZblbB3eHuD7uPuG2BrPknwN0gUKmmGMjUNkRknxJ2baEysjxx8l1kdOv2?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?DU0hXHn9+57naoXmawF2BqwgNSZ2YDDyXu+Y9z/kVZO+JbXBoiSpTpso82?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?XbJFGZOxyBud6h8bu2TrItOl2Oagkj5MWxnrrr4ZjEyuUlmz9+Y138Aft0?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?W5L/UxNKCTZuKUCAZSmF/IdPoKgCV1vA5yK49eUdU3vYqNGYxynbufy6+y?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?oi5Ddu4b3DMPhi8eBU/rtcpcQF92tRNQ8YpZbYu/N/2C/Nd0RevwcZ99gG?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?u2tCpOOCSpu10Z9zKgvqITFlUrhuF1XubiIoBOJsOZsTQ/mSS/4CboPcTh?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?mfDlMKW+FzC9C9ikYuMcwkK8NJ5aH1ErG1DeD9i0i43QKz+JTxUq7f9YIp?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ytw6pyTYcqy5Bh79IEhOObj4qkNZNFAXNKILf/MlIT9JcUqS2t6y1SDZ8R?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?BfS3gyFtj1CgTgZU9LwYMSOywP/l8/fXNbi5TS1z7iqsP5jMtfL2pZrbDR?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?SdE31aTQ7MM0OgD4vPm6IU4rWQsh6he4nTlVEpUBoVap1s2IX+QKkxKoT2?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?M0gad8tNLSclN7XaW3DewQMQrcxa3245IBoah4/sjSI6HtSI5FBBbkeRWE?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?roQlsSvxvyIvwRb7+YVMfis80AHlJLLiz1UoRxZdOde0vCR0RTWCWJn8V0?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Os6YgpT0nxNgt5Tgx2Y1NM2JOd5+zSbtIvGXPF6F?= X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 67ebc89f-77ae-4893-4552-08ddc4b18b4a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR11MB4845.namprd11.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2025 21:41:38.5392 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 46c98d88-e344-4ed4-8496-4ed7712e255d X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: 30KGzUbPIMVdUYHnmYsc5qMRWKQmZ6Ic0lqozgkRcd5cJ/7gOURJXMyryzoJ/nTZjbxtF0ezy+TCGfr9Z+Nlzw== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN9PR11MB5276 X-OriginatorOrg: intel.com On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 09:40:40PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 04:20:28PM +0300, Imre Deak wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 11:17:12PM +0300, Ville Syrjala wrote: > > > From: Ville Syrjälä > > > > > > On g4x we currently use the 96MHz non-SSC refclk, which can't actually > > > generate an exact 2.7 Gbps link rate. In practice we end up with 2.688 > > > Gbps which seems to be close enough to actually work, but link training > > > is currently failing due to miscalculating the DP_LINK_BW value (we > > > calcualte it directly from port_clock which reflects the actual PLL > > > outpout frequency). > > > > > > Ideas how to fix this: > > > - nudge port_clock back up to 270000 during PLL computation/readout > > > - track port_clock and the nominal link rate separately so they might > > > differ a bit > > > - switch to the 100MHz refclk, but that one should be SSC so perhaps > > > not something we want > > > > > > While we ponder about a better solution apply some band aid to the > > > immediate issue of miscalculated DP_LINK_BW value. With this > > > I can again use 2.7 Gbps link rate on g4x. > > > > > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org > > > Fixes: 665a7b04092c ("drm/i915: Feed the DPLL output freq back into crtc_state") > > > Signed-off-by: Ville Syrjälä > > > > Reviewed-by: Imre Deak > > > > IIUC, port_clock for g4x is ref * m / n / p, where for DP the fixed > > ref=96000 and m/n/p values from g4x_dpll are used. > > > > Ftr, m = 135, n = 6, p = 8 would give port_clock = 270000, but there's > > no intel_limit for DP, so can't know if these params are within range. > > The P divider can only be some multiple of 5. Right, missed that, so with this ref clock setting an exact link rate doesn't seem to be possible indeed (within the VCO range used for all other output types on g4x). > > > --- > > > drivers/gpu/drm/i915/display/intel_dp.c | 6 ++++++ > > > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/display/intel_dp.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/display/intel_dp.c > > > index f48912f308df..7976fec88606 100644 > > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/display/intel_dp.c > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/display/intel_dp.c > > > @@ -1606,6 +1606,12 @@ int intel_dp_rate_select(struct intel_dp *intel_dp, int rate) > > > void intel_dp_compute_rate(struct intel_dp *intel_dp, int port_clock, > > > u8 *link_bw, u8 *rate_select) > > > { > > > + struct intel_display *display = to_intel_display(intel_dp); > > > + > > > + /* FIXME g4x can't generate an exact 2.7GHz with the 96MHz non-SSC refclk */ > > > + if (display->platform.g4x && port_clock == 268800) > > > + port_clock = 270000; > > > + > > > /* eDP 1.4 rate select method. */ > > > if (intel_dp->use_rate_select) { > > > *link_bw = 0; > > > -- > > > 2.49.0 > > > > > -- > Ville Syrjälä > Intel