From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
linux-serial@vger.kernel.org,
qianfan Zhao <qianfanguijin@163.com>,
Adriana Nicolae <adriana@arista.com>,
Markus Mayer <markus.mayer@linaro.org>,
Tim Kryger <tim.kryger@linaro.org>,
Matt Porter <matt.porter@linaro.org>,
Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
Jamie Iles <jamie@jamieiles.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, "Bandal,
Shankar" <shankar.bandal@intel.com>,
"Murthy, Shanth" <shanth.murthy@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] serial: 8250_dw: Ensure BUSY is deasserted
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2026 00:42:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXP5YMNix8EfbJeF@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260123172739.13410-7-ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 07:27:39PM +0200, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> DW UART cannot write to LCR, DLL, and DLH while BUSY is asserted.
> Existance of BUSY depends on uart_16550_compatible, if UART HW is
> configured with 16550 compatible those registers can always be written.
with 16550 compatible --> with it
> There currently is dw8250_force_idle() which attempts to archive
> non-BUSY state by disabling FIFO, however, the solution is unreliable
> when Rx keeps getting more and more characters.
>
> Create a sequence of operations to enforce that ensures UART cannot
> keep BUSY asserted indefinitely. The new sequence relies on enabling
> loopback mode temporarily to prevent incoming Rx characters keeping
> UART BUSY.
What if UART was already in a loopback mode? I assume that Tx pause
described below should not affect the case.
The real case scenario that I am thinking of is a stress test of UART
using loopback mode.
> Ensure no Tx in ongoing while the UART is switches into the loopback
> mode (requires exporting serial8250_fifo_wait_for_lsr_thre() and adding
> DMA Tx pause/resume functions).
>
> According to tests performed by Adriana Nicolae <adriana@arista.com>,
> simply disabling FIFO or clearing FIFOs only once does not always
> ensure BUSY is deasserted but up to two tries may be needed. This could
> be related to ongoing Rx of a character (a guess, not known for sure).
Sounds like a plausible theory because UART has shift registers that are
working independently on the current situation with FIFO. They are actual
frontends for Tx and Rx data on the wire.
> Therefore, retry FIFO clearing a few times (retry limit 4 is arbitrary
> number but using, e.g., p->fifosize seems overly large). Tests
> performed by others did not exhibit similar challenge but it does not
> seem harmful to leave the FIFO clearing loop in place for all DW UARTs
> with BUSY functionality.
>
> Use the new dw8250_idle_enter/exit() to do divisor writes and LCR
> writes. In case of plain LCR writes, opportunistically try to update
> LCR first and only invoke dw8250_idle_enter() if the write did not
> succeed (it has been observed that in practice most LCR writes do
> succeed without complications).
>
> This issue was first reported by qianfan Zhao who put lots of debugging
> effort into understanding the solution space.
...
> + /* Prevent triggering interrupt from RBR filling */
> + p->serial_out(p, UART_IER, 0);
Do we specifically use callbacks directly and not wrappers all over the change?
...
> + serial8250_fifo_wait_for_lsr_thre(up, p->fifosize);
> + ndelay(p->frame_time);
Wouldn't be a problem on lowest baud rates (exempli gratia 110)?
...
> + retries = 4; /* Arbitrary limit, 2 was always enough in tests */
> + do {
> + serial8250_clear_fifos(up);
> + if (!(p->serial_in(p, usr_reg) & DW_UART_USR_BUSY))
> + break;
> + ndelay(p->frame_time);
> + } while (--retries);
read_poll_timeout_atomic() ? I assume it can't be used due to small frame time?
...
> + if (d->in_idle) {
> + /*
> + * FIXME: this deadlocks if port->lock is already held
> + * dev_err(p->dev, "Couldn't set LCR to %d\n", value);
> + */
Hmm... That FIXME should gone since we have non-blocking consoles, no?
> + return;
> + }
...
> + ret = dw8250_idle_enter(p);
> + if (ret < 0) {
> + /*
> + * FIXME: this deadlocks if port->lock is already held
> + * dev_err(p->dev, "Couldn't set LCR to %d\n", value);
> + */
> + goto idle_failed;
> }
> - /*
> - * FIXME: this deadlocks if port->lock is already held
> - * dev_err(p->dev, "Couldn't set LCR to %d\n", value);
> - */
Ditto.
> }
...
> p->dev = dev;
Maybe put an added line here?
> p->set_ldisc = dw8250_set_ldisc;
> p->set_termios = dw8250_set_termios;
> + p->set_divisor = dw8250_set_divisor;
...
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(serial8250_clear_fifos);
Same Q, perhaps start exporting with a namespace?
> }
> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(serial8250_set_defaults);
...
> +void serial8250_fifo_wait_for_lsr_thre(struct uart_8250_port *up, unsigned int count)
> +{
> + unsigned int i;
> +
> + for (i = 0; i < count; i++) {
while (count--) ?
Ah, it's existing code... OK then.
> + if (wait_for_lsr(up, UART_LSR_THRE))
> + return;
> + }
> +}
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-23 22:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260123172739.13410-1-ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
2026-01-23 17:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] serial: 8250_dw: Ensure BUSY is deasserted Ilpo Järvinen
2026-01-23 22:42 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2026-01-27 13:35 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-01-27 14:10 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-27 14:40 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-01-27 16:19 ` John Ogness
2026-01-26 15:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-01-27 14:45 ` Ilpo Järvinen
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=aXP5YMNix8EfbJeF@smile.fi.intel.com \
--to=andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com \
--cc=adriana@arista.com \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com \
--cc=ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com \
--cc=jamie@jamieiles.com \
--cc=jirislaby@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-serial@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=markus.mayer@linaro.org \
--cc=matt.porter@linaro.org \
--cc=qianfanguijin@163.com \
--cc=shankar.bandal@intel.com \
--cc=shanth.murthy@intel.com \
--cc=stable@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=tim.kryger@linaro.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox