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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Khushit Shah <khushit.shah@nutanix.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, kai.huang@intel.com,  mingo@redhat.com,
	x86@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	 dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	jon@nutanix.com,  shaju.abraham@nutanix.com,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] KVM: x86: Add x2APIC "features" to control EOI broadcast suppression
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 06:44:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXogtqrZMehORg2L@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea294969d05fc9c37e72053d7343e11fa9ffdded.camel@infradead.org>

On Tue, Jan 27, 2026, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2026-01-27 at 13:49 -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > 
> > Nope, we should be good on that front, kvm->arch.irqchip_mode can't be changed
> > once its set.  I.e. the irqchip_split() check could get a false negative if it's
> > racing with KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP, but it can't get a false positive and thus
> > incorrectly allow KVM_X2APIC_ENABLE_SUPPRESS_EOI_BROADCAST.
> 
> Ah, so userspace which checks all the kernel's capabilities *first*
> will not see KVM_X2APIC_ENABLE_SUPPRESS_EOI_BROADCAST advertised,
> because it needs to enable KVM_CAP_SPLIT_IRQCHIP first?

Only if userspace creates a VM and uses that to check capabilities, in which case
KVM is 100% right to say that KVM_X2APIC_ENABLE_SUPPRESS_EOI_BROADCAST isn't
supported.  If userspace checks the system-scoped ioctl, i.e. with @kvm=NULL, it
will see KVM_X2APIC_ENABLE_SUPPRESS_EOI_BROADCAST.

> I guess that's tolerable¹ but the documentation could make it clearer,
> perhaps? I can see VMMs silently failing to detect the feature because
> they just don't set split-irqchip before checking for it? 

Hmm, if we want to improve that particular documentation, then we should do so
in the description of KVM_CHECK_EXTENSION itself, which currently says: 

  Based on their initialization different VMs may have different capabilities.
  It is thus encouraged to use the vm ioctl to query for capabilities (available
  with KVM_CAP_CHECK_EXTENSION_VM on the vm fd)

Because there multiple capabilities that are conditionally supported based on
the VM type/configuration, i.e. this behavior isn't novel.

> ¹ although I still kind of hate it and would have preferred to have the
>   I/O APIC patch; userspace still has to intentionally *enable* that
>   combination. But OK, I've reluctantly conceded that.

Eh, VM really should be returning '0' for the check for all KVM_CAP_X2APIC_API,
and disallowing the capability, if the VM doesn't have an in-kernel local APIC.
Because enabling any of the KVM_X2APIC_API_* options without a local APIC doesn't
actually do anything.

I say that because I'd be very tempted to "fix" that by restricting new flags to
VMs with irqchip_in_kernel(), at which point userspace needs to get the ordering
right anyways.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-28 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-23 12:56 [PATCH v6] KVM: x86: Add x2APIC "features" to control EOI broadcast suppression Khushit Shah
2026-01-27  2:21 ` Khushit Shah
2026-01-27  2:41   ` Khushit Shah
2026-01-27 21:09 ` David Woodhouse
2026-01-27 21:49   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-27 22:36     ` David Woodhouse
2026-01-28  2:22       ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-28  3:48         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]           ` <SA2PR02MB756478359EE9185285ACE6158891A@SA2PR02MB7564.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
2026-01-28  5:17             ` Khushit Shah
2026-01-28  5:32               ` David Woodhouse
2026-01-28  6:40               ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-28 15:04               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-28  6:15           ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-28 14:57             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-28 21:10               ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-28 14:44       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-02-04  0:10 ` Sean Christopherson

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