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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Liav Rehana <liavr@mellanox.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	"Christopher S . Hall" <christopher.s.hall@intel.com>,
	"4.6+" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] timekeeping: Change type of nsec variable to unsigned in its calculation.
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:22:17 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1611291520070.4358@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1479531216-25361-1-git-send-email-john.stultz@linaro.org>

On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, John Stultz wrote:
> From: Liav Rehana <liavr@mellanox.com>
> 
> During the calculation of the nsec variable in the inline function
> timekeeping_delta_to_ns, it may undergo a sign extension if its msb
> is set just before the shift. The sign extension may, in some cases,
> gain it a value near the maximum value of the 64-bit range. This is
> bad when it is later used in a division function, such as
> __iter_div_u64_rem, where the amount of loops it will go through to
> calculate the division will be too large. One can encounter such a
> problem, for example, when trying to connect through ftp from an
> outside host to the operation system. When the OS is too overloaded,
> delta will get a high enough value for the msb of the sum
> delta * tkr->mult + tkr->xtime_nsec to be set, and so after the
> shift the nsec variable will gain a value similar to
> 0xffffffffff000000. Using a variable with such a value in the
> inline function __iter_div_u64_rem will take too long, making the
> ftp connection attempt seem to get stuck.
> The following commit fixes that chance of sign extension, while
> maintaining the type of the nsec variable as signed for other
> functions that use this variable, for possible legit negative
> time intervals.
>
> Thomas/Ingo: This is for tip:timers/urgent.

Certainly not! My objections against this still stand. See:

http://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.20.1609261956160.4915@nanos

http://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.20.1609270929170.4891@nanos

If we have legitimate use cases with a negative delta, then this patch
breaks them no matter what. See the basic C course section in the second
link.

Thanks,

	tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-29 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-19  4:53 [PATCH] timekeeping: Change type of nsec variable to unsigned in its calculation John Stultz
2016-11-28 22:50 ` John Stultz
2016-11-29 14:22 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2016-11-29 23:57   ` David Gibson
2016-11-30 23:21     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-12-01  2:12       ` David Gibson
2016-12-01 11:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-12-01 20:23           ` John Stultz
2016-12-01 20:46             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-12-01 21:19               ` John Stultz
2016-12-01 22:44                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-12-01 23:03                   ` John Stultz
2016-12-01 23:08                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-12-01 23:32           ` David Gibson
2016-12-02  8:36             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-12-03  0:33               ` David Gibson

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