From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BF5C3F9CC; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 13:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1732024762; cv=none; b=B+vMP+025F68JSSl9r+5l0m8IfrdaXYCS3idhhN/i0g+yLTCEqngvAKrV9mkta7gv+xGA3Ti5akgRmb5XDY5F0Yu0xjFyW6TYda5O2V5rIRmAHZktGnEaRxp30/eHKVkMKttuatNOKg9zd/bJuAWsn9KkeLks1UZ+WcsF0xRrys= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1732024762; c=relaxed/simple; bh=maqDpBxyiv1B3K+1vd2w9ltLEydvjMTth1eMwvfshq4=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:MIME-Version; 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method > > > that explicitly takes the inode's semaphore around a > > > generic_fillattr() call. My understanding is that these methods > > > assume that their caller handles appropriate serialization. > > > Therefore, taking the inode semaphore at all in shmem_getattr() > > > seems to me to be the wrong approach entirely. > > >=20 > > > The point of reverting immediately is that any fix can't possibly > > > get the review and testing it deserves three days before v6.12 > > > becomes final. Also, it's not clear what the rush to fix the > > > KCSAN splat is; according to the Fixes: tag, this issue has been > > > present for years without causing overt problems. It doesn't feel > > > like this change belongs in an -rc in the first place. > > >=20 > > > Please revert d949d1d14fa2, then let's discuss a proper fix in a > > > separate thread. Thanks! > >=20 > > Thanks so much for reporting this issue, Chuck: just in time. > >=20 > > I agree abso-lutely with you: I was just preparing a revert, > > when I saw that akpm is already on it: great, thanks Andrew. >=20 > Thanks to you both for jumping on this! >=20 >=20 > > I was not very keen to see that locking added, just to silence a syzbot > > sanitizer splat: added where there has never been any practical problem > > (and the result of any stat immediately stale anyway). I was hoping we > > might get a performance regression reported, but a hang serves better! > >=20 > > If there's a "data_race"-like annotation that can be added to silence > > the sanitizer, okay. But more locking? I don't think so. >=20 > IMHO the KCSAN splat suggests there is a missing inode_lock/unlock > pair /somewhere/. Just not in shmem_getattr(). >=20 > Earlier in this thread, Jeongjun reported: > > ... I found that this data-race mainly occurs when vfs_statx_path > > does not acquire the inode_lock ... >=20 > That sounds to me like a better place to address this; or at least > that is a good place to start looking for the problem. >=20 I don't think this data race is anything to worry about: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D BUG: KCSAN: data-race in generic_fillattr / inode_set_ctime_current =20 write to 0xffff888102eb3260 of 4 bytes by task 6565 on cpu 1: inode_set_ctime_to_ts include/linux/fs.h:1638 [inline] inode_set_ctime_current+0x169/0x1d0 fs/inode.c:2626 shmem_mknod+0x117/0x180 mm/shmem.c:3443 shmem_create+0x34/0x40 mm/shmem.c:3497 lookup_open fs/namei.c:3578 [inline] open_last_lookups fs/namei.c:3647 [inline] path_openat+0xdbc/0x1f00 fs/namei.c:3883 =20 write to 0xffff888102eb3260 of 4 bytes by task 6565 on cpu 1: inode_set_ctime_to_ts include/linux/fs.h:1638 [inline] inode_set_ctime_current+0x169/0x1d0 fs/inode.c:2626 shmem_mknod+0x117/0x180 mm/shmem.c:3443 shmem_create+0x34/0x40 mm/shmem.c:3497 lookup_open fs/namei.c:3578 [inline] open_last_lookups fs/namei.c:3647 [inline] path_openat+0xdbc/0x1f00 fs/namei.c:3883 do_filp_open+0xf7/0x200 fs/namei.c:3913 do_sys_openat2+0xab/0x120 fs/open.c:1416 do_sys_open fs/open.c:1431 [inline] __do_sys_openat fs/open.c:1447 [inline] __se_sys_openat fs/open.c:1442 [inline] __x64_sys_openat+0xf3/0x120 fs/open.c:1442 x64_sys_call+0x1025/0x2d60 arch/x86/include/generated/asm/syscalls_64.= h:258 do_syscall_x64 arch/x86/entry/common.c:52 [inline] do_syscall_64+0x54/0x120 arch/x86/entry/common.c:83 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x76/0x7e =20 read to 0xffff888102eb3260 of 4 bytes by task 3498 on cpu 0: inode_get_ctime_nsec include/linux/fs.h:1623 [inline] inode_get_ctime include/linux/fs.h:1629 [inline] generic_fillattr+0x1dd/0x2f0 fs/stat.c:62 shmem_getattr+0x17b/0x200 mm/shmem.c:1157 vfs_getattr_nosec fs/stat.c:166 [inline] vfs_getattr+0x19b/0x1e0 fs/stat.c:207 vfs_statx_path fs/stat.c:251 [inline] vfs_statx+0x134/0x2f0 fs/stat.c:315 vfs_fstatat+0xec/0x110 fs/stat.c:341 __do_sys_newfstatat fs/stat.c:505 [inline] __se_sys_newfstatat+0x58/0x260 fs/stat.c:499 __x64_sys_newfstatat+0x55/0x70 fs/stat.c:499 x64_sys_call+0x141f/0x2d60 arch/x86/include/generated/asm/syscalls_64.= h:263 do_syscall_x64 arch/x86/entry/common.c:52 [inline] do_syscall_64+0x54/0x120 arch/x86/entry/common.c:83 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x76/0x7e =20 value changed: 0x2755ae53 -> 0x27ee44d3 =20 Reported by Kernel Concurrency Sanitizer on: CPU: 0 UID: 0 PID: 3498 Comm: udevd Not tainted 6.11.0-rc6-syzkaller-00= 326-gd1f2d51b711a-dirty #0 Hardware name: Google Google Compute Engine/Google Compute Engine, BIOS= Google 08/06/2024 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D inode_set_ctime_to_ts() is just setting the ctime fields in the inode to the timespec64. inode_get_ctime_nsec() is just fetching the ctime nsec field. We've never tried to synchronize readers and writers when it comes to timestamps. It has always been possible to read an inconsistent timestamp from the inode. The sec and nsec fields are in different words, and there is no synchronization when updating the fields. Timestamp fetches seem like the right place to use a seqcount loop, but I don't think we would want to add any sort of locking to the update side of things. Maybe that's doable? --=20 Jeff Layton