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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Aishwarya Rambhadran <aishwarya.rambhadran@arm.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] slab: replace cpu (partial) slabs with sheaves
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 18:50:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eafefe7a-a33b-4102-93cf-fecc33ddf49e@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea1cb2a1-b674-4d69-bbf6-00051a0e11df@kernel.org>

On 26/03/2026 18:24, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 3/26/26 19:16, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 03:42:02PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>> On 3/26/26 13:43, Aishwarya Rambhadran wrote:
>>>> Hi Vlastimil, Harry,
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>> We have observed few kernel performance benchmark regressions,
>>>> mainly in perf & vmalloc workloads, when comparing v6.19 mainline
>>>> kernel results against later releases in the v7.0 cycle.
>>>> Independent bisections on different machines consistently point
>>>> to commits within the slab percpu sheaves series. However, towards
>>>> the end of the bisection, the signal becomes less clear, so it's
>>>> not yet certain which specific commit within the series is the
>>>> root cause.
>>>>
>>>> The workloads were triggered on AWS Graviton3 (arm64) & AWS Intel
>>>> Sapphire Rapids (x86_64) systems in which the regressions are
>>>> reproducible across different kernel release candidates.
>>>> (R)/(I) mean statistically significant regression/improvement,
>>>> where "statistically significant" means the 95% confidence
>>>> intervals do not overlap”.
>>>>
>>>> Below given are the performance benchmark results generated by
>>>> Fastpath Tool, for different kernel -rc versions relative to the
>>>> base version v6.19, executed on the mentioned SUTs. The perf/
>>>> syscall benchmarks (execve/fork) regress consistently by ~6–11% on
>>>> both arm64 and x86_64 across v7.0-rc1 to rc5, while vmalloc
>>>> workloads show smaller but stable regressions (~2–10%), particularly
>>>> in kvfree_rcu paths.
>>>>
>>>> Regressions on AWS Intel Sapphire Rapids (x86_64) :
>>>
>>> The table formatting is broken for me, can you resend it please? Maybe a
>>> .txt attachment would work better.
>>>
>>>> +-----------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+-------------+-------------+---------------------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
>>>> | Benchmark       | Result Class            |   6-19-0 (base) |  
>>>>   7-0-0-rc1 |   7-0-0-rc2 |  7-0-0-rc2-gaf4e9ef3d784 |   7-0-0-rc3 |  
>>>>   7-0-0-rc4 |   7-0-0-rc5 |
>>>> +=================+==========================================================+=================+=============+=============+===========================+=============+=============+=============+
>>>> | micromm/vmalloc | kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test: p:1, h:0, l:500000 
>>>> (usec) |       262605.17 |      -4.94% |      -7.48% |             (R) 
>>>> -8.11% |      -4.51% |      -6.23% |      -3.47% |
>>>> |                 | kvfree_rcu_2_arg_vmalloc_test: p:1, h:0, l:500000 
>>>> (usec) |       253198.67 |      -7.56% | (R) -10.57% |            (R) 
>>>> -10.13% |  (R) -7.07% |      -6.37% |      -6.55% |
>>>> |                 | pcpu_alloc_test: p:1, h:0, l:500000 (usec)           
>>>>   |       197904.67 |      -2.07% |      -3.38% |             -2.07% |  
>>>>      -2.97% |  (R) -4.30% |      -3.39% |
>>>> |                 | random_size_align_alloc_test: p:1, h:0, l:500000 
>>>> (usec)  |      1707089.83 |      -2.63% |  (R) -3.69% |               
>>>> (R) -3.25% |  (R) -2.87% |      -2.22% |  (R) -3.63% |
>>>> +-----------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+-------------+-------------+---------------------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
>>>> | perf/syscall    | execve (ops/sec)            |         1202.92 |  (R) 
>>>> -7.15% |  (R) -7.05% |         (R) -7.03% |  (R) -7.93% |  (R) -6.51% |  
>>>> (R) -7.36% |
>>>> |                 | fork (ops/sec)            |          996.00 |  (R) 
>>>> -9.00% | (R) -10.27% |         (R) -9.92% | (R) -11.19% | (R) -10.69% | 
>>>> (R) -10.28% |
>>>> +-----------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+-------------+-------------+---------------------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
>>>>
>>>> Regressions on AWS Graviton3 (arm64) :
>>>> +-----------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+-------------+-------------+---------------------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
>>>> | Benchmark       | Result Class            |   6-19-0 (base) |  
>>>>   7-0-0-rc1 |   7-0-0-rc2 |  7-0-0-rc2-gaf4e9ef3d784 |   7-0-0-rc3 |  
>>>>   7-0-0-rc4 |   7-0-0-rc5 |
>>>> +=================+==========================================================+=================+=============+=============+===========================+=============+=============+=============+
>>>> | micromm/vmalloc | fix_size_alloc_test: p:1, h:0, l:500000 (usec)      
>>>>       |       320101.50 |  (R) -4.72% |  (R) -3.81% |               (R) 
>>>> -5.05% |      -3.06% |      -3.16% |  (R) -3.91% |
>>>> |                 | fix_size_alloc_test: p:4, h:0, l:500000 (usec)      
>>>>       |       522072.83 |  (R) -2.15% |      -1.25% |               (R) 
>>>> -2.16% |  (R) -2.13% |      -2.10% |      -1.82% |
>>>> |                 | fix_size_alloc_test: p:16, h:0, l:500000 (usec)      
>>>>      |      1041640.33 |      -0.50% |  (R) -2.04% |                 
>>>> -1.43% |      -0.69% |      -1.78% |  (R) -2.03% |
>>>> |                 | fix_size_alloc_test: p:256, h:1, l:100000 (usec)    
>>>>       |      2255794.00 |      -1.51% |  (R) -2.24% |             (R) 
>>>> -2.33% |      -1.14% |      -0.94% |      -1.60% |
>>>> |                 | kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test: p:1, h:0, l:500000 
>>>> (usec) |       343543.83 |  (R) -4.50% |  (R) -3.54% |             (R) 
>>>> -5.00% |  (R) -4.88% |  (R) -4.01% |  (R) -5.54% |
>>>> |                 | kvfree_rcu_2_arg_vmalloc_test: p:1, h:0, l:500000 
>>>> (usec) |       342290.33 |  (R) -5.15% |  (R) -3.24% |             (R) 
>>>> -3.76% |  (R) -5.37% |  (R) -3.74% |  (R) -5.51% |
>>>> |                 | random_size_align_alloc_test: p:1, h:0, l:500000 
>>>> (usec)  |      1209666.83 |      -2.43% |      -2.09% |                 
>>>>    -1.19% |  (R) -4.39% |      -1.81% |      -3.15% |
>>>> +-----------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+-------------+-------------+---------------------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
>>>> | perf/syscall    | execve (ops/sec)            |         1219.58 |      
>>>>         |  (R) -8.12% |         (R) -7.37% |  (R) -7.60% |  (R) -7.86% 
>>>> |  (R) -7.71% |
>>>> |                 | fork (ops/sec)            |          863.67 |        
>>>>       |  (R) -7.24% |         (R) -7.07% |  (R) -6.42% |  (R) -6.93% |  
>>>> (R) -6.55% |
>>>> +-----------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+-------------+-------------+---------------------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The details of latest bisections that were carried out for the above
>>>> listed regressions, are given below :
>>>> -Graviton3 (arm64)
>>>>   good: v6.19 (05f7e89ab973)
>>>>   bad:  v7.0-rc2 (11439c4635ed)
>>>>   workload: perf/syscall (execve)
>>>>   bisected to: f1427a1d6415 (“slab: make percpu sheaves compatible with
>>>>   kmalloc_nolock()/kfree_nolock()”)
>>>>
>>>> -Sapphire Rapids (x86_64)
>>>>   good: v6.19 (05f7e89ab973)
>>>>   bad:  v7.0-rc3 (1f318b96cc84)
>>>>   workload: perf/syscall (fork)
>>>>   bisected to: f1427a1d6415 (“slab: make percpu sheaves compatible with
>>>>   kmalloc_nolock()/kfree_nolock()”)
>>>>
>>>> -Graviton3 (arm64)
>>>>   good: v6.19 (05f7e89ab973)
>>>>   bad:  v7.0-rc3 (1f318b96cc84)
>>>>   workload: perf/syscall (execve)
>>>>   bisected to: f3421f8d154c (“slab: introduce percpu sheaves bootstrap”)
>>>
>>> Yeah none of these are likely to introduce the regression.
>>> We've seen other reports from e.g. lkp pointing to later commits that remove
>>> the cpu (partial) slabs. The theory is that on benchmarks that stress vma
>>> and maple node caches (fork and execve are likely those), the introduction
>>> of sheaves in 6.18 (for those caches only) resulted in ~doubled percpu
>>> caching capacity (and likely associated performance increase) - by sheaves
>>> backed by cpu (partial) slabs,. Removing the latter then looks like a
>>> regression in isolation in the 7.0 series.
>>>
>>> A regression of vmalloc related to kvfree_rcu might be new. Although if it's
>>> kvfree_rcu() of vmalloc'd objects, it would be weird. More likely they are
>>> kvmalloc'd but small enough to be actually kmalloc'd? What are the details
>>> of that test?
>>>
>> static int
>> kvfree_rcu_2_arg_vmalloc_test(void)
> 
> Oh so that's what the test is measuring? Thanks for clarifying.
> 
>> {
>> 	struct test_kvfree_rcu *p;
>> 	int i;
>>
>> 	for (i = 0; i < test_loop_count; i++) {
>> 		p = vmalloc(1 * PAGE_SIZE);
>> 		if (!p)
>> 			return -1;
>>
>> 		p->array[0] = 'a';
>> 		kvfree_rcu(p, rcu);
>> 	}
>>
>> 	return 0;
>> }
>>
>> static bool kfree_rcu_sheaf(void *obj)
>> {
>> 	struct kmem_cache *s;
>> 	struct slab *slab;
>>
>> 	if (is_vmalloc_addr(obj))
>> 		return false;
>>
>> 	slab = virt_to_slab(obj);
>> 	if (unlikely(!slab))
>> 		return false;
>>
>> 	s = slab->slab_cache;
>> 	if (likely(!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_NUMA) || slab_nid(slab) == numa_mem_id()))
>> 		return __kfree_rcu_sheaf(s, obj);
>>
>> 	return false;
>> }
>>
>> it does not go via sheaf since it is a vmalloc address.

Isn't vmalloc doing slab allocations for vmap_area, vm_struct, etc, which will
occasionally go via sheaves though? I had assumed that was the reason of the
observed regression.

> 
> Right so there should be just the overhead of the extra is_vmalloc_addr()
> test. Possibly also the call of kfree_rcu_sheaf() if it's not inlined.
> I'd say it's something we can just accept? It seems this is a unit test
> being used as a microbenchmark, so it can be very sensitive even to such
> details, but it should be negligible in practice.

The perf/syscall cases might be a bit more concerning though? (those tests are
from "perf bench syscall fork|execve"). Yes they are microbenchmarks, but a 7%
increased cost for fork seems like something we'd want to avoid if we can.

Thanks,
Ryan


> 
>>
>> --
>> Uladzislau Rezki
> 


      reply	other threads:[~2026-03-26 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-23  6:52 [PATCH v4 00/22] slab: replace cpu (partial) slabs with sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 01/22] mm/slab: add rcu_barrier() to kvfree_rcu_barrier_on_cache() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 16:08   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-29 15:18 ` [PATCH v4 00/22] slab: replace cpu (partial) slabs with sheaves Hao Li
2026-01-29 15:28   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29 16:06     ` Hao Li
2026-01-29 16:44       ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-30  4:38         ` Hao Li
2026-01-30  4:50     ` Hao Li
2026-01-30  6:17       ` Hao Li
2026-02-04 18:02       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-02-04 18:24         ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2026-02-06 16:44           ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-03-26 12:43 ` [REGRESSION] " Aishwarya Rambhadran
2026-03-26 14:42   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-26 18:16     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-03-26 18:24       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-26 18:50         ` Ryan Roberts [this message]

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