From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Tech Board Discuss
<Tech-board-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] TAB non-nomination
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:49:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r2fogbwp.fsf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181111055728.GC12818@thunk.org>
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018, "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> "Community" is a very slippery term. I will note that there were
> *many* people who were participating on the threads, sometimes in very
> non-constructive or in a downright toxic fashion, who had zero commits
> in recent years. In some cases, it was zero commits, *ever*. I
> recall doing the research on one prolific author and found that while
> he did contribute the kernel, it was 3 or 4 commits... ~5 years
> ago... to a driver.
>
> And then there was one person who admitted that while he was just a
> user, he insisted he had a right to weigh in the issue. They
> certainly have the right to have that belief, of course. Whether or
> not maintainers are obliged to cater to people with those beliefs is a
> very different question, however.
>
> There seems to be an assumption that a open, public discussion will
> always give you the best review. I don't think that's necessarily
> true. It can often give you a very biased sample from the poeple who
> are most stridently on one side of the debate or the other, as well as
> being biased towards those who believe in the "last post wins" style
> of debate, since they end up speaking most loudly and posting most
> frequently and most aggressively.
I think it's interesting to note that ksummit-discuss seemed to be a
much more fruitful list for discussion than LKML in this matter. Would
we benefit from a non-technical mailing list to accompany LKML?
Something less "seasonal" than ksummit-discuss.
Could also restrict posting to subscribers only, with public archives,
and limit subscribers to, say, people in MAINTAINERS and/or some (fairly
low) number of required commits in the past years. I presume
ksummit-discuss had fairly good signal-to-noise because it's not well
known or publicized.
BR,
Jani.
--
Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Graphics Center
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-13 16:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-09 0:04 [Tech-board-discuss] TAB non-nomination James Bottomley
2018-11-09 0:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-09 3:30 ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Chris Mason
2018-11-09 17:52 ` Shuah Khan
2018-11-09 19:03 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-09 19:23 ` Joe Perches
2018-11-10 21:21 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-10 21:47 ` Joe Perches
2018-11-12 17:15 ` James Morris
2018-11-09 20:17 ` [Tech-board-discuss] better hot-topic discussion processes was: " Jason Cooper
2018-11-10 19:26 ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Chris Mason
2018-11-10 21:55 ` Jason Cooper
2018-11-14 18:25 ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-09 19:54 ` Frank Rowand
2018-11-10 19:15 ` Chris Mason
2018-11-10 21:59 ` Jason Cooper
2018-11-11 3:18 ` Frank Rowand
2018-11-11 5:57 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-12 4:44 ` NeilBrown
2018-11-12 4:54 ` NeilBrown
2018-11-12 17:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-13 16:49 ` Jani Nikula [this message]
2018-11-13 19:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-14 17:28 ` Mark Brown
2018-11-09 17:19 ` Stephen Hemminger
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