From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B17932E6B6 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2025 14:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1761057508; cv=none; b=AJJ2BhiF9FlDPocOfHuojy48QM4qbFm2/lWyBbvjJUAzcPEwFyrEE+0uJ376J1ndFXzeEYs4dy8EJ4HXNH3gcBX5P845m375ej7bcuEYw+2LE91nY7eVrEQPq3Mar81Ki+b1QLdeL619uoWL3W1via3zUGGtO/MBwKr0oHU9ktg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1761057508; c=relaxed/simple; bh=h3Ehf0k0rasKqpTFPvbHb6hY53DikDBX1uvYMHF2pAU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=JiDcFYy+4Cmg4uZlTE9EjA9YASuCtcq5vsaWeZvV9DonQwn5G9xe1spScBgidHl1SOLWmO6JXoXly2WqR3VOanuU2H0Iu77snUF6AKDovNXNzEtt/s5geJpITVohpXbT6IBuPGnkdO89h9ARuD5Uca7VfdEM28/EmP6rLRVg+Z4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=WVe3Th2x; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="WVe3Th2x" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) id 986AFC4CEF5; Tue, 21 Oct 2025 14:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A6ADC4CEF7; Tue, 21 Oct 2025 14:38:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1761057507; bh=h3Ehf0k0rasKqpTFPvbHb6hY53DikDBX1uvYMHF2pAU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=WVe3Th2xpJhAHZwI7zC0wNl2iZa0IpKKWLZtRumTJePcHGrtAX/zBjJDWSnlcv7YU avIkoHqEoNdWYM+Ey8kaE6icwXYOE+yt8IVyy0ytEpwojrRLh39eY63wqgffgoBugI geinvVmZDut9TXrk6NwZHqMIHRJXCvOCdTr5EoI55vLfnW4UyuQBEfpzDDAOZNUQes fy5jMmA8UXm792BX/Zct/bmcIzzghJhrm7YUGEkJJOl2TY2I+PduNHNkIiy8TSqa/R cq+qwwuO3NLDEVMd4hWhEHukn1QaHKuvZ2qhKmLzf8bA4RNeAHmp0omX6xZMa3EQMz xAwLQv9ICesqw== Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 15:38:23 +0100 From: Lee Jones To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" Cc: Greg KH , Konstantin Ryabitsev , tools@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: b4: ty: User-flow regression Message-ID: <20251021143823.GH475031@google.com> References: <20251009151349.GB2890766@google.com> <20251009-remarkable-charming-pogona-fd7a8f@lemur> <20251010080324.GC2988639@google.com> <20251010-mauve-dolphin-of-apotheosis-a1cbdf@lemur> <20251010143452.GH2988639@google.com> <20251010-feathered-pastoral-woodpecker-de863d@lemur> <2025101155-coauthor-backboned-e90b@gregkh> <20251021105645.GE475031@google.com> <08cb2b99-187e-46e5-8921-bbadd2a66636@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: tools@linux.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <08cb2b99-187e-46e5-8921-bbadd2a66636@kernel.org> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote: > On 10/21/25 12:56, Lee Jones wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Oct 2025, Greg KH wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 10:37:22AM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > >> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 03:34:52PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote: > >> > > > Next question is -- have you recently stopped adding Link: tags to your > >> > > > commits? :) > >> > > > >> > > Oooo, yes! Yes, I have! > >> > > > >> > > Why would that make a difference? > >> > > >> > When patches have been altered by the maintainer, we can no longer match them > >> > by git-patch-id. > >> > >> Which is the primary reason to keep the Link: stuff. Many maintainers > >> manually change patches to fix up minor things all the time, and without > >> the Link: it's a major pain to find (the LF sponsored a whole project > >> just to do the backwards mapping for many years, but no one used it...) > >> > >> > In the past, when we found a Link: trailer, we could still > >> > match their provenance by message-id, but if that is gone, we can no longer > >> > fall back to that. I am working on making the "ty" mechanism being less > >> > dependent on that -- hopefully the master branch should become more useful to > >> > you again in the near future. > >> > >> message-id is important to track somehow, we need that link. > > > > It turns out that going back to manually thanking contributors is too > > much of a regression for me ATM. For now at least, against Linus' > > wishes (sadly), I'm putting Link:s back in. > > Linus later said he would tolerate them with the https://patch.msgid.link > domain: > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-=wj5MATvT-FR8qNpXuuBGiJdjY1kRfhtzuyBSpTKR+=Vtw@mail.gmail.com/ Okay, this works. Looks like b4 now supports that in `master` as: 52d380965c71 ("Set default linkmask to patch.msgid.link") -- Lee Jones [李琼斯]