From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Fuchs,
Andreas"
<andreas.fuchs-iXjGqz/onsDSyEMIgutvibNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org"
<tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
Ken Goldman <kgoldman-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 20:19:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160104181915.GA15908@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA5877E95-wI35/lLZEdRyXeJKmmMAp2SU2VBt9E6NG9Ur7JDdleE@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 04:22:25PM +0000, Fuchs, Andreas wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 02, 2016 at 01:39:57PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > Ie the first step would be to create a new /dev/ node for the
> > > 'virtualized' tpm (vs the raw tpm we have now). We'd want to have some
> > > idea exactly what that is and exactly what the UAPI looks like, and
> > > make decsisions like, should there be one per tpm or one for all tpms?
> >
> > Or you can get a new context when you open tpm device. There are
> > multiple options.
>
> I guess there are ways to add stuff.
>
> I'd like to get a list of people interested to work on some conceptual stuff
> first though.
I don't care in what process the patches are implemented. I can review
and test patches once there is something real to be evaluated.
> Some concrete questions that originate from my personal unfamiliarity with
> kernel coding that would influence my getting started concepting this thing:
>
> - fd-duplication (dup(), fork(), ...): How to handle objects in this case ? It is
> possible to duplicate DH_HANDLES, but not SESSION_HANDLES.
What you are saying does not match the semantics of these system calls.
They do not duplicate data. Nothing needs to be done.
> It would be easiest to disallow dup() and fork(), similar to CLOEXEC but rather
> "CLOFORK". Is this possible ? What are alternatives ?
>
> - Similarly, can/shall we allow fd-passing ? In context of the previous question,
> is it possible to force closing of fd in the original process when passing the fd ?
> What alternatives would there be ?
>
> - What would be preferred, a layered approach vs a hook-table based approach ?
> What's generally used in kernel modules ?
This discussion about fd's is way out of context.
> Thanks for all inputs,
> Andreas
/Jarkko
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2015-12-18 10:06 ` Wilck, Martin
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2015-12-18 10:51 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-18 10:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-18 11:09 ` Wilck, Martin
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2015-12-18 11:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-18 14:10 ` Ken Goldman
2015-12-21 13:22 ` Fuchs, Andreas
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2015-12-21 14:23 ` Stefan Berger
2015-12-22 21:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2015-12-23 15:02 ` Ken Goldman
2015-12-24 11:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-24 15:09 ` Ken Goldman
2016-01-02 20:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2016-01-03 13:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2016-01-04 16:22 ` Fuchs, Andreas
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2016-01-04 18:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
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2016-01-04 20:06 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-05 9:43 ` Fuchs, Andreas
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2016-01-05 13:13 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-05 17:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-12-22 6:59 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2016-01-04 16:07 ` Fuchs, Andreas
2016-01-07 21:07 ` TPM2 resource manager vendor specific commands Ken Goldman
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2015-12-18 11:57 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-18 13:40 ` Stefan Berger
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