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From: "Stefan Berger" <stefanb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	Stefan Berger
	<stefanb-0rqouEpbLJlpnrxNGchxj0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>,
	tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Multi-instance vTPM driver
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:05:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201601192305.u0JN5qYu002450@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160119224851.GA31745-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>


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Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> wrote on 01/19/2016 
05:48:51 PM:


> Date: 01/19/2016 05:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Multi-instance vTPM driver
> 
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 05:14:28PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 11:08 -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:53:40PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> > > >    This series has absolutely nothing to do with resource
> > > >    management.
> > > 
> > > Sure the patch doesn't, but the proposed application does.
> > > 
> > > Linux namespaces is all about resource management.
> > 
> > huh?  namespacing is about isolation.
> 
> isolation of what? Every namespace in linux has a defined set of
> kernel managed resources it contains.

- network namespace isolates a network namespace from all the other 
network namespace through separate network interfaces and separate network 
stack
- mount namespace isolates the mount points and filesystems from other 
mount namespaces
- PID namespace isolates the process IDs of one container from those of 
others

- IMA namespacing isolates the measurement lists between IMA namespaces; 
alos each IMA namespace will have its own IMA policy

The goal is that each IMA namespace can have its own attached vTPM into 
which IMA can do PCR extensions.

   Stefan

> 
> > > This is an interesting way to make a software TPM,
> >
> > That's the intention, not namespacing the TPM.
> 
> Did you read the patch?
> 
>  The primary goal of this series of patches is enabling vTPM for 
containers
>  and hooking them up to a (future) namespaced IMA. However, the driver 
can
>  also be used for simulating a hardware TPM on the host.
> 
> Jason
> 



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2016-01-14 16:01 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Multi-instance vTPM driver Stefan Berger
     [not found] ` <1452787318-29610-1-git-send-email-stefanb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-14 16:01   ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] New flags for TPM chip avoiding filesystem registrations Stefan Berger
     [not found]     ` <1452787318-29610-2-git-send-email-stefanb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  8:07       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-01-14 16:01   ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] Allow to provide a name pattern of the device Stefan Berger
2016-01-14 16:01   ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] Implement driver for supporting multiple emulated TPMs Stefan Berger
     [not found]     ` <1452787318-29610-4-git-send-email-stefanb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20160119235107.GA4307-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 14:39           ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]             ` <201601201439.u0KEdGB9031710-YREtIfBy6dDImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27  2:36               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                 ` <20160127023603.GA23863-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 12:17                   ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                 ` <201601271217.u0RCHQIX004914@d03av02.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                   ` <201601271217.u0RCHQIX004914-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 14:22                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                       ` <20160127142239.GA3756-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 18:24                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                           ` <20160127182448.GA31680-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 21:13                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-01-27 22:38                             ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                 ` <201601271217.u0RCHQkf003637@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                   ` <201601271217.u0RCHQkf003637-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 17:35                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <201601201439.u0KEdFao027907@d03av05.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]           ` <201601201439.u0KEdFao027907-3MP/CPU4Muo+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  1:17             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20160121011701.GA20361-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  3:01                 ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                   ` <201601210301.u0L31hLD018933-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27  2:50                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                       ` <20160127025057.GB23863-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 12:20                         ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                       ` <201601271220.u0RCKpEG016626@d03av02.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                         ` <201601271220.u0RCKpEG016626-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 14:23                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]               ` <201601210301.u0L31h5r012187@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                 ` <201601210301.u0L31h5r012187-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  3:21                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20160121032115.GA26266-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  3:56                       ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                     ` <201601210356.u0L3uP1n029818@d03av05.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                       ` <201601210356.u0L3uP1n029818-3MP/CPU4Muo+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 17:42                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                           ` <20160121174243.GD3064-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 19:02                             ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                           ` <201601211902.u0LJ2LbL001130@d03av01.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                             ` <201601211902.u0LJ2LbL001130-Rn83F4s8Lwc+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 19:30                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <20160121193049.GA31938-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 21:51                                   ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                 ` <201601212151.u0LLpC93021986@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <201601212151.u0LLpC93021986-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 22:10                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                       ` <20160121221040.GA1630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-22 12:01                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-01-22 15:09                                         ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                           ` <56A2461C.7030607-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25 18:10                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                               ` <20160125181046.GB28108-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  1:05                                                 ` Stefan Berger
2016-01-26  1:46                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                   ` <20160126014652.GB10732-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  3:19                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                       ` <20160126031919.GA24217-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 13:56                                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                           ` <20160126135658.GA6813-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 17:58                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                               ` <20160126175816.GA17937-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27  2:06                                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20160127020617.GB22703-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 19:48                                                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                               ` <201601260105.u0Q15IWW028777@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                 ` <201601260105.u0Q15IWW028777-2xHzGjyANq4+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  3:46                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                     ` <201601261421.u0QELnI3002626@d01av02.pok.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <201601261421.u0QELnI3002626-prK0F/7GlgzImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 18:22                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                           ` <20160126182248.GB17937-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 23:22                                                             ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                                           ` <201601262322.u0QNMo1r022303@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                             ` <201601262322.u0QNMo1r022303-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 18:21                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                     ` <20160126034632.GB24217-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 14:21                                                       ` Stefan Berger
2016-02-02 19:22                                                       ` Stefan Berger
2016-01-27  3:13                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                           ` <20160127031320.GC23863-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 12:42                                             ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                           ` <201601271242.u0RCgM0E031875@d03av05.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                             ` <201601271242.u0RCgM0E031875-3MP/CPU4Muo+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 17:58                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                 ` <20160127175839.GA31038-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 21:58                                                   ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                                 ` <201601272158.u0RLwvIK005533@d01av01.pok.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                   ` <201601272158.u0RLwvIK005533-4ZtxiNBBw+3ImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 22:25                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                       ` <20160127222534.GB5520-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 22:55                                                         ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                                       ` <201601272255.u0RMtuqY014120@d03av02.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                         ` <201601272255.u0RMtuqY014120-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 23:33                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-01-14 16:01   ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] A test program for vTPM device creation Stefan Berger
2016-01-15 10:11   ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Multi-instance vTPM driver Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]     ` <20160115101146.GA11987-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 13:02       ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]     ` <201601151302.u0FD2wGG003518@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]       ` <201601151302.u0FD2wGG003518-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25 23:15         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]           ` <20160125231532.GA10732-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  0:28             ` Stefan Berger
2016-01-26  0:29             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]           ` <201601260029.u0Q0T7Ek004865@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]             ` <201601260029.u0Q0T7Ek004865-2xHzGjyANq4+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  1:48               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-01-19 17:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <201601191753.u0JHrku2031608@d01av01.pok.ibm.com>
     [not found]       ` <201601191753.u0JHrku2031608-4ZtxiNBBw+3ImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 18:08         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]           ` <20160119180802.GA8038-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 18:18             ` Stefan Berger
2016-01-19 22:14             ` Mimi Zohar
     [not found]               ` <1453241668.2673.31.camel-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 22:48                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                   ` <20160119224851.GA31745-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:05                     ` Stefan Berger [this message]
     [not found]           ` <201601191818.u0JIIExQ010843@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]             ` <201601191818.u0JIIExQ010843-2xHzGjyANq4+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:04               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <20160119230456.GB31745-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:15                   ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                     ` <201601192315.u0JNFFG6030371-Rn83F4s8Lwc+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 15:40                       ` Ken Goldman
     [not found]                 ` <201601192315.u0JNFGkm029862@d01av04.pok.ibm.com>
     [not found]                   ` <201601192315.u0JNFGkm029862-YREtIfBy6dDImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:42                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <20160119174400.GA7616-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 17:53       ` Stefan Berger
2016-01-19 22:59       ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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