From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen
<jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/11] tpm: Provide strong locking for device removal
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:20:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160222222017.GC27228@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160222210844.GA3310-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:08:59PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 07:42:01AM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
> >
> > Add a read/write semaphore around the ops function pointers so
> > ops can be set to null when the driver un-registers.
> >
> > Previously the tpm core expected module locking to be enough to
> > ensure that tpm_unregister could not be called during certain times,
> > however that hasn't been sufficient for a long time.
>
> Could you be more concrete with the scenario? You could describe
> a sequence of events where this could happen.
echo 1 > /sys/.../remove
Is basically the same as a module unload without requiring module
unload. module locking cannot be relied upon for correctness like this
ever since hot remove was added to the kernel.
> > + * @chip: Chip to ref
> > + *
> > + * The caller must already have some kind of locking to ensure that chip is
>
> What do you mean when you use the term "some kind of locking"?
Eg the IDR lookup code uses a idr specific mutex. The char device uses
a ref held by the cdev subsystem.
> > +void tpm_put_ops(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> > +{
> > + module_put(chip->dev.parent->driver->owner);
> > + up_read(&chip->ops_sem);
> > + put_device(&chip->dev);
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(tpm_put_ops);
>
> I'm just thinking is the try_module_get() and module_put() even
> necessary after this change? You know that device is not unregistered
> from chip->ops field, which is protected by that RW-semaphore.
The module locking is not about correctness. Some subsystems will hold
the module lock on their driver specifically to prevent rmmod as a
hint to the user that the driver module is being used by an open
/dev/tpmX for instance. Eg rtc does that.
We need to decide if we want that for TPM or not. Orthogonal issue.
I'm OK with getting rid of the module lock, TPM has a long lived
user space daemon, rtc does not.
Jason
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2016-02-19 12:41 [PATCH v3 00/11] Multi-instance vTPM driver Stefan Berger
2016-02-19 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] tpm: fix the cleanup of struct tpm_chip Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <1455885728-10315-1-git-send-email-stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-19 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] tpm: Get rid of chip->pdev Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <1455885728-10315-3-git-send-email-stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 19:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-02-19 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] tpm: Get rid of devname Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <1455885728-10315-4-git-send-email-stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 18:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160222181929.GB22088-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 19:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20160222194202.GC32667-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 19:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160222195816.GL22088-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 20:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-02-23 0:22 ` Stefan Berger
2016-02-19 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] tpm: Provide strong locking for device removal Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <1455885728-10315-5-git-send-email-stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 21:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20160222210844.GA3310-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 22:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
[not found] ` <20160222222017.GC27228-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 19:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20160223194014.GA5241-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 19:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160223195246.GC389-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 20:36 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-02-23 20:43 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-02-19 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] tpm: Get rid of module locking Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <1455885728-10315-6-git-send-email-stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 18:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160222182245.GC22088-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 0:26 ` Stefan Berger
2016-02-22 21:11 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20160222211141.GB3310-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 22:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-02-19 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] tpm: Split out the devm stuff from tpmm_chip_alloc Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <1455885728-10315-7-git-send-email-stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 18:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-02-22 21:14 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20160222211414.GC3310-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 22:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160222221328.GA27228-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 0:45 ` Stefan Berger
2016-02-23 11:31 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-02-19 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] tpm: Replace device number bitmap with IDR Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <1455885728-10315-8-git-send-email-stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 19:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <201602230116.u1N1G4iu012263@d03av02.boulder.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <201602230116.u1N1G4iu012263-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 2:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160223021606.GC26177-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 23:04 ` Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <201602232305.u1NN521L020589@d03av01.boulder.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <201602232305.u1NN521L020589-Rn83F4s8Lwc+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 23:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160222190629.GE22088-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 1:15 ` Stefan Berger
2016-02-23 2:16 ` Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <201602230217.u1N2HIJT003183@d03av05.boulder.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <201602230217.u1N2HIJT003183-3MP/CPU4Muo+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 2:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-02-19 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] tpm: Introduce TPM_CHIP_FLAG_VIRTUAL Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <1455885728-10315-9-git-send-email-stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 19:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160222191922.GH22088-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 1:20 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] tpm: IntroduceTPM_CHIP_FLAG_VIRTUAL Stefan Berger
2016-02-23 1:21 ` Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <201602230121.u1N1LYk2024786@d01av01.pok.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <201602230121.u1N1LYk2024786-4ZtxiNBBw+3ImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 2:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160223020515.GA26177-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 3:40 ` Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <201602230116.u1N1Ghac006778@d01av05.pok.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <201602230116.u1N1Ghac006778-8DuMPbUlb4HImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 2:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-02-19 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] tpm: Driver for supporting multiple emulated TPMs Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <1455885728-10315-10-git-send-email-stefanb-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 19:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160222192741.GI22088-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 1:45 ` Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <201602230142.u1N1gSuF029481@d01av05.pok.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <201602230142.u1N1gSuF029481-8DuMPbUlb4HImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 2:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160223021730.GD26177-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24 23:10 ` Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <201602242306.u1ON6qGP030251-8DuMPbUlb4HImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-25 13:17 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20160225131732.GA20860-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-25 14:12 ` Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <201602251409.u1PE98LH012367@d01av05.pok.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <201602251409.u1PE98LH012367-8DuMPbUlb4HImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-25 17:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160225173956.GA1407-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-25 18:42 ` Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <201602251842.u1PIgEuL014249@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <201602251842.u1PIgEuL014249-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-25 20:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160225203117.GA22984-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-25 22:11 ` Stefan Berger
2016-02-23 10:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20160223102211.GA9474-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 12:09 ` Stefan Berger
[not found] ` <201602231210.u1NCAD6D017196@d01av03.pok.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <201602231210.u1NCAD6D017196-CUdSWdNILC7ImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 18:36 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-02-19 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] tpm: Initialize TPM and get durations and timeouts Stefan Berger
2016-02-19 12:42 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] A test program for vTPM device creation Stefan Berger
2016-02-22 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Multi-instance vTPM driver Jarkko Sakkinen
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