From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: "Winkler, Tomas" <tomas.winkler@intel.com>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
"tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: don't destroy chip device prematurely
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:10:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161004231057.GA20062@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F4C92@hasmsx108.ger.corp.intel.com>
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 09:55:36PM +0000, Winkler, Tomas wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:19:46AM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> >
> > > > Make the driver uncallable first. The worst race that can happen is
> > > > that open("/dev/tpm0", ...) returns -EPIPE. I do not consider this
> > > > fatal at all.
> > >
> > > No responses for this reasonable proposal so I'll show what I mean:
> >
> > How is this any better than what Thomas proposed? It seems much worse to
> > me since now we have even more stuff in the wrong order.
> >
> > There are three purposes to the ordering as it stands today
> > 1) To guarantee that tpm2_shutdown is the last command delivered to
> > the TPM. When it is issued all other ways to access the device
> > are hard fenced off.
>
> I'm not sure where are you taking this requirements from simple bit
> is just enough to make the HW inaccessible if the interface is
> designed right.
I'm having a hard time understanding the english in your
email. (Jarkko do you know what Tomas is talking about??)
> The ordering can be resolved, like this
>
> down_write(&chip->ops_sem);
> if (chip->flags & TPM_CHIP_FLAG_TPM2)
> tpm2_shutdown(chip, TPM2_SU_CLEAR);
> up_write(&chip->ops_sem);
>
> device_del(&chip->dev);
>
> down_write(&chip->ops_sem);
> chip->ops = NULL;
> up_write(&chip->ops_sem);
No, that is wrong as well, another thread can issue a TPM command
between the device_del and the ops = NULL. Presumably that will fail
the same as tpm2_shutdown does.
> > I still haven't heard an explanation why Thomas's other patches need this, or
> > why trying to change this ordering makes any sense at all considering how the
> > subsystem is constructed.
>
> I thought it's quite clear form the commit message, the device_del
Not clear at all the commit message describes the 'solution' not the
problem. This doesn't help..
> naturally toggles runtime_pm of the parent device, it tries to
> resume the parent device so it can perform denationalization and
> then suspend the parent device back which caused tpm2_shutdown to
> fail.
What code actually fails? I don't see anything in the runtime pm patch
that relies on chip->dev at all.
What code fails and why?
> I general we can not to implement power management via runtime_pm
> and resolve the issue within tpm_crb driver but it's not abouth
> tpm_crb. tpm2_shutdown is a tpm stack call it's not tpm_crb
> function, it uses tpm_transmit_cmd and friends it should have valid
> tpm_chip initialized and valid. I'm not sure what could be more
> clearer than that.
I'll say it again, the tpm_transmit_cmd path must not require a
registered chip->dev.
device_del only unregisters the dev, it does not deinitialize it, nor
does it free any memory. I still don't understand how this has any
impact on the pm stuff when all the pm stuff is attached only to the
pdev.
> I have to admit that I'm not sure what the vtpm does yet, but I have
> a feeling that a simple flag can fix this.
What flag? Fix what?
Jason
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-02 7:39 [PATCH] tpm: don't destroy chip device prematurely Tomas Winkler
[not found] ` <1475393971-12715-1-git-send-email-tomas.winkler-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-02 10:17 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20161002101755.GA25844-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-02 10:24 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20161002102455.GA27464-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-02 21:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161002212126.GA25872-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03 7:05 ` Winkler, Tomas
[not found] ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F466B-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03 7:38 ` Winkler, Tomas
[not found] ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F46C1-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03 12:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-03 16:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161003160308.GA6801-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03 17:30 ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-03 12:48 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20161003124836.GE9990-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-04 5:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-04 16:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-04 21:55 ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-04 23:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
[not found] ` <20161004231057.GA20062-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-05 7:48 ` Winkler, Tomas
[not found] ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F5084-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-05 15:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 16:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-05 17:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-05 20:09 ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-05 21:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-06 0:43 ` Winkler, Tomas
[not found] ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F561B-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-06 2:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161006020748.GA17479-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-07 14:24 ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-07 19:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161007191724.GA28795-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-07 20:10 ` Winkler, Tomas
[not found] ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F625A-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-08 10:47 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 10:02 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20161005100234.GA20851-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-05 16:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-06 11:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-06 16:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20161006162245.GF1224-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-06 16:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 10:09 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-03 16:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-03 17:16 ` Winkler, Tomas
[not found] ` <5B8DA87D05A7694D9FA63FD143655C1B542F474C-Jy8z56yoSI8MvF1YICWikbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-03 17:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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