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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	Marcel Selhorst <tpmdd@selhorst.net>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] tpm: expose spaces via a device link /dev/tpms<n>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 19:39:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170224173922.qwuhfxeitbyct52o@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1487941328.2249.23.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:02:08AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-02-23 at 11:09 +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 09:25:19PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
> > > 
> > > Currently the tpm spaces are not exposed to userspace.  Make this
> > > exposure via a separate device, which can now be opened multiple 
> > > times because each read/write transaction goes separately via the
> > > space.
> > > 
> > > Concurrency is protected by the chip->tpm_mutex for each read/write
> > > transaction separately.  The TPM is cleared of all transient 
> > > objects by the time the mutex is dropped, so there should be no
> > > interference between the kernel and userspace.
> > > Signed-off-by: James Bottomley <
> > > 
> > > James.Bottomley@HansenPartnershp.com>
> 
> > Reviewed-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkine@linux.intel.com>
> > Tested-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkine@linux.intel.com>
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> > Nitpicking but I've been thinking about naming. What about calling 
> > the device as tpmrc0 as in resource context. I think that would be a
> > better name than TPM space.
> 
> Well the original name was tpmrm<n> for TPM with Resource Manager.  You
> wanted it to be tpms<n> for TPM with Spaces.
> 
> I'm not entirely sold on the Resource Context name ... I think Resource Manager (because it's what the TCG calls it) or Spaces (because it's what all the code comments call it) are better.  Resource Context sounds like what TPM2_SaveContext() creates for you rather than the interface.
> 
> >  You do not mix it up with namespaces and/or virtualization. With
> > resource in front it cannot be easily mixed up with TPM contexts
> > either.
> 
> I'm a containers person.  What this set of patches does is precisely OS
> level virtualization in my book, so I don't think you need to pretend
> it is't; and OS level virtualization is what a namespace does.  The
> only difference between this and the other kernel namespaces is that
> you get a new namespace automatically when you open the device and you
> can't enter an existing namespace.
> 
> I think therefore that tpmns<n> for TPM Namespace would be very
> appropriate.

Makes sense. We can go with tpmns.

/Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-24 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-16 19:25 [PATCH v2 0/7] in-kernel resource manager Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] tpm: expose spaces via a device link /dev/tpms<n> Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-23  9:09   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]     ` <20170223090917.jq7thil5ggjmagil-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-24 13:02       ` James Bottomley
2017-02-24 17:39         ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
     [not found]           ` <20170224173922.qwuhfxeitbyct52o-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-24 18:11             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24 20:29               ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                 ` <1487968155.2190.14.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-24 20:52                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24 23:01                     ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-02-24 23:23                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                         ` <20170224232327.GA9126-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-24 23:43                           ` James Bottomley
2017-02-25  0:25                             ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                               ` <20170225002514.GA10605-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-25 17:04                                 ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                                   ` <1488042289.2250.22.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 17:28                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-26 11:44         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-26 18:30           ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
     [not found]             ` <20170226183040.GA4272-DHO+NtfOqB5PEDpkEIzg7wC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 17:22               ` Ken Goldman
     [not found]           ` <20170226114440.5ksg3lx27ylekvbx-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 17:33             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24  6:59   ` [tpmdd-devel] " Nayna
2017-02-24 12:53     ` James Bottomley
     [not found]       ` <1487940829.2249.15.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 11:46         ` Nayna
     [not found]           ` <58B41184.7020200-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 14:55             ` James Bottomley
     [not found] ` <20170216192529.25467-1-jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-16 19:25   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] tpm: move length validation to tpm_transmit() Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] tpm: validate TPM 2.0 commands Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] tpm: export tpm2_flush_context_cmd Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] tpm: infrastructure for TPM spaces Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-21 18:24     ` [tpmdd-devel] " Nayna
2017-02-22 17:39       ` James Bottomley
2017-02-22 20:56         ` Ken Goldman
     [not found]         ` <1487785159.2376.27.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-22 20:09           ` Ken Goldman
2017-03-23 15:56             ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]       ` <58AC85F2.5000406-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-22 17:08         ` Ken Goldman
2017-02-22 21:08         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-24 12:53     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-24 17:02       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] tpm: split out tpm-dev.c into tpm-dev.c and tpm-common-dev.c Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]     ` <20170216192529.25467-6-jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-23  9:04       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-16 19:25   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] tpm2: add session handle context saving and restoring to the space code Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-02-23  9:04     ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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