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From: Ulf Samuelsson <ulf@atmel.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:16:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003801c784e0$7923d280$01c4af0a@Glamdring> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20070422110504.616AC352650@atlas.denx.de

> In message <001901c784ba$97f07450$01c4af0a@Glamdring> you wrote:
>>
>> > while listen_to_arguments; do
>> > change patch until everybody is happy
>> > done
>>
>> In this case, my goal is to create a useable way of configuration
>> for limited parts of U-boot outside U-boot.
>
> This is reasonable.
>
>> Wolfgang just stated that he will not accept any patch making that
>> possible,.
>> The only allowed way to configure is within u-boot.
>
> This is not so different from Linux, btw. The only way to configure a
> Linux kernel is by doing this inside the Linux source tree.

No, the way buildroot works is that you decompress a linux kernel and patch 
it.
Then you can copy  $(LINUX26_KCONFIG) (defined by buildroot make 
menucconfig)
to the $(LINUX26_DIR)/.config.

$(LINUX26_KCONFIG) is of course generated by doing make xconfig inside the 
linux kernel
and then copying it to the buildroot directory.

This method meet my need to easily be able to select a working configuration 
for Linux.

I am doing the same for u-boot. A file is copied to 
include/configs/<board>.h
but there are somethings which always needs to change for a new user,
and these things need to be configured using buildroot "make menuconfig"
>
> I admit that I don't like Kconfig. But then, I'm  also  unhappy  with
> what  we have now. Ideas for a beter solution are welcome, but please
> let's discuss concepts before submitting patches.

One of my main requirements is a consistent interface and ideally
everything is using the same configuration system.
The problem with using Kconfig is that it generates a single .config file.
It would be nice if it could generate one .config per package.
buildroot, linux, u-boot, busybox.

>> We just dont think alike.
>
> This is perfectly normal. We can still try to work with each other.
>
>> Which is good and completely different to Wolfgangs approach
>> to make it as difficult as possible to maintain out of tree patches
>> in the hope that no nonGPL versions of u-boot will appear.
>
> I don't see how I could do anything against out of tree patches  even
> if I wanted, nor am I aware that I ever tried.

You don't allow u-boot to have hooks for out of tree patches.
To be successful, there needs to exists a number of place holders
where the developer have total control and simply can copy in out of tree 
stuff.
Relying on patching existing files makes upgrading your out of tree 
structure
unneccessary time consuming.

Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson                ulf at atmel.com
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-22 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-20 19:22 [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure network parameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 20:40 ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-20 20:49   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 20:55   ` Ben Warren
2007-04-20 21:51     ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configurenetwork parameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 23:12       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:39         ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-21  0:31           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-21  6:07             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-21  6:17             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 19:56           ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-22 20:25             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 20:30               ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-22 21:27             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 21:59   ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure network parameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 23:14     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:46       ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 20:47 ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure network parameters Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 21:35   ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 22:59     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:29       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-21  0:25         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-21  6:05           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-21 10:37             ` Robert Schwebel
2007-04-22  5:30               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22  7:27                 ` Robert Schwebel
2007-04-22  8:45                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 11:05                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 13:16                       ` Ulf Samuelsson [this message]
2007-04-22 13:58                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 14:28                           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 18:48                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 10:30                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:03   ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure network parameters Timur Tabi
2007-04-20 23:29     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:58       ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-21 12:41       ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure network parameters Andreas Schweigstill
2007-04-22 20:11       ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-22 20:31         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 21:50           ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 23:57             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23  5:43               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-23  6:46                 ` [U-Boot-Users] MPC8343 I2C problem Monstr at seznam.cz
2007-04-23 14:46                   ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23  7:00                 ` [U-Boot-Users] MPC8343 NET without PHY Monstr at seznam.cz
2007-04-23 14:51                   ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23  8:59                 ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23  9:24                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-23 10:50                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23  9:01                 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 21:38         ` Ulf Samuelsson

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