From: Ulf Samuelsson <ulfs@atmel.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks.
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:44:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <004801c741fb$5e8e76a0$01c4af0a@atmel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 528646bc0701261546p38084059x8461a781eb0af1fd@mail.gmail.com
Grant Likely wrote:
> On 1/26/07, Ulf Samuelsson <ulfs@atmel.com> wrote:
>>>> No, but you started off by saying you specifically are focusing on
>>>> dataflash,
>>>> and then you need to test on the primary target for the dataflash
>>>> which is the AT91 series.
>>>
>>> Then I apologies and ask for forgiveness. I want to see some of the
>>> crazy side cases removed from the generic routines (and replaced
>>> with generic hooks where appropriate).
>>
>> Why?
>> Have you done any cost benefit analysis to the rest of the community?
>> What will the world gain by such a change?
>
> Simpler code, easier to maintain code, easier to add new storage
> devices, easier to have boards with multiple different storage
> technologies, smaller u-boot binaries.
>
> Let me flip the question around: Do you like the current
> implementation where each storage technology (MMC, memmapped flash,
> and DataFlash; see my reply to Wolfgang) has it's own set of hooks in
> each memory access command?
>
> How about this:
> 1. start with *not* changing the mmi and u-boot continues to pretend
> that DataFlash and MMC devices are memmapped. I may not like it, but
> I understand your position on this.
> 2. add a common interface for non-RAM and non-memorymapped devices
> that provides a single interface for commands like cp, md, bootm, etc
> to find out if an address is 'special' and what routines it should
> call to access them.
> 3. First migrate memmapped flash devices to the new interface to prove
> it is workable.
> 4. Second migrate over either MMC or DataFlash devices; based on who
> is able to provide test support (this does *not* touch the low level
> code. It introduces a shim between the commands and the device
> routines)
> 5. Migrate the remaining hooks. At this point, all the command
> functions should only have a single hook for access non-memmapped,
> non-RAM devices. All commands should now work on all devices. ie. md
> command can access MMC devices, something it cannot do now.
>
> Of course there is design work that needs to be done, but in this
> stages approach, the first patch will show how the common interface is
> designed.
>
Now you are getting there...
This is a workable approach.
>>
>>> I should have couched it more in
>>> those terms when I first brought it up.
>>>
>>
>>> From my point of view, dataflash is the main case, and
>> everything else is a side case.
>
> I only see it as a side case due to the way it is implemented. Now
> that I've looked deeper into the other commands, the same argument
> goes for MMC devices. If the implementation changes to use a common
> interface for these similar devices then it's not a side case any
> longer in my mind.
>
>> I do not see any benefit in changing the MMI for dataflash.
>> I rather see changes which will make dataflash more similar
>> in use to std parallell flash.
>> In my u-boot I can compare dataflash to SDRAM etc.
>>
>
> Fair enough
>
> Cheers,
> g.
Best Regards,
Ulf Samuelsson
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-27 9:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-26 8:44 [U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks Grant Likely
2007-01-26 9:42 ` Peter.Pearse
2007-01-26 9:46 ` [U-Boot-Users] How to skip network driver? Rui.Zhou at nokia.com
2007-01-26 9:56 ` w.wegner at astro-kom.de
2007-01-26 14:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 13:53 ` [U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 19:24 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 21:27 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 22:35 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <000001c7416f$fa61fed0$01c4af0a@atmel.com>
2007-01-26 19:02 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <02eb01c74180$c4911410$01c4af0a@atmel.com>
2007-01-26 20:27 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 21:21 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-26 22:40 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 23:01 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-26 23:46 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-27 9:44 ` Ulf Samuelsson [this message]
2007-01-29 10:49 ` Stefan Roese
2007-01-29 13:44 ` Peter.Pearse
2007-01-29 14:47 ` Stefan Roese
2007-01-29 16:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 10:33 ` Stefan Roese
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-26 16:45 Peter.Pearse
2007-01-26 19:11 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 21:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 22:34 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-27 0:42 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-27 1:52 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-27 13:34 ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-27 16:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-27 17:04 ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-27 17:17 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-28 14:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 1:32 ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-29 12:52 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-27 22:19 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-28 1:47 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-28 15:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-28 22:21 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-28 22:50 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 2:50 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-29 13:07 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 21:06 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-01-29 22:57 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 23:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30 0:28 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-01-30 1:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30 1:16 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-01-30 22:23 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30 6:52 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31 7:44 ` Tolunay Orkun
2007-01-29 3:17 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-29 7:35 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 13:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 13:29 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 20:45 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-29 21:48 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 23:03 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-30 0:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 23:08 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-30 0:48 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-30 1:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30 6:55 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31 17:11 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-31 17:37 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31 21:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-31 23:13 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31 23:50 ` Grant Likely
2007-02-01 0:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-02-01 2:46 ` Tolunay Orkun
2007-01-29 11:10 ` Stefan Roese
2007-01-29 2:27 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-28 15:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 2:33 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-29 7:49 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 13:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <528646bc0701310848x4c63cf53gd228f860c0fd0444@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-31 16:50 ` Grant Likely
2007-02-01 12:40 ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-29 12:56 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 10:43 ` Stefan Roese
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