[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Stefan Roese]

Here a short announcement about a change in the U-Boot ARM custodianship:

Since the ARM platform is so broad and has multiple vendor 
specific "sub-architectures" it seemed necessary to add new U-Boot custodian 
branches for those architectures. Fortunately we had some volunteers. Here 
the list:

u-boot-at91 (Atmel ARM)         Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
u-boot-pxa (XScale)             Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
u-boot-s3c24xx (Samsung ARM)    Harald Welte

Again, thanks a lot to the (new) custodians. Your help is really appreciated.

Best regards,
Stefan

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[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <200803180607.16553.sr@denx.de> you wrote:
> Here a short announcement about a change in the U-Boot ARM custodianship:
> 
> Since the ARM platform is so broad and has multiple vendor 
> specific "sub-architectures" it seemed necessary to add new U-Boot custodian 
> branches for those architectures. Fortunately we had some volunteers. Here 
> the list:
> 
> u-boot-at91 (Atmel ARM)         Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
> u-boot-pxa (XScale)             Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
> u-boot-s3c24xx (Samsung ARM)    Harald Welte

The new repositories have been set up and should be operational now.

Viele Gr??e,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Ulf Samuelsson]

> Here a short announcement about a change in the U-Boot ARM custodianship:
> 
> Since the ARM platform is so broad and has multiple vendor 
> specific "sub-architectures" it seemed necessary to add new U-Boot custodian 
> branches for those architectures. Fortunately we had some volunteers. Here 
> the list:
> 
> u-boot-at91 (Atmel ARM)         Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
> u-boot-pxa (XScale)             Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
> u-boot-s3c24xx (Samsung ARM)    Harald Welte
> 
> Again, thanks a lot to the (new) custodians. Your help is really appreciated.
> 


Would it not be better if the Atmel ARM was handled by the Atmel AT91 Product line

Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson

[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Stefan Roese]

On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> > Here a short announcement about a change in the U-Boot ARM custodianship:
> >
> > Since the ARM platform is so broad and has multiple vendor
> > specific "sub-architectures" it seemed necessary to add new U-Boot
> > custodian branches for those architectures. Fortunately we had some
> > volunteers. Here the list:
> >
> > u-boot-at91 (Atmel ARM)         Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
> > u-boot-pxa (XScale)             Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
> > u-boot-s3c24xx (Samsung ARM)    Harald Welte
> >
> > Again, thanks a lot to the (new) custodians. Your help is really
> > appreciated.
>
> Would it not be better if the Atmel ARM was handled by the Atmel AT91
> Product line

Could be, I really don't know. I don't remember seeing Atmel ARM patches 
posted or reviewed by other Atmel than yourself.

So for the time being, we gladly accept that Jean-Christophe volunteered to 
take over this custodianship. From my point of view, he is doing a very good 
job with his other U-Boot activities. So I expect that the AT91 support could 
be handled better from now on.

But again, we are open for other suggestions here too. If you think someone at 
Atmel is better suited to do this job, then please let us know.

BTW: If somebody else feels suited to take over some open custodianships (PCI, 
RTC, HWMON come to my mind right now), please let us know too. :)

Thanks.

Best regards,
Stefan

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[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Ulf Samuelsson]

> On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
>> > Here a short announcement about a change in the U-Boot ARM custodianship:
>> >
>> > Since the ARM platform is so broad and has multiple vendor
>> > specific "sub-architectures" it seemed necessary to add new U-Boot
>> > custodian branches for those architectures. Fortunately we had some
>> > volunteers. Here the list:
>> >
>> > u-boot-at91 (Atmel ARM)         Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
>> > u-boot-pxa (XScale)             Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard
>> > u-boot-s3c24xx (Samsung ARM)    Harald Welte
>> >
>> > Again, thanks a lot to the (new) custodians. Your help is really
>> > appreciated.
>>
>> Would it not be better if the Atmel ARM was handled by the Atmel AT91
>> Product line
> 
> Could be, I really don't know. I don't remember seeing Atmel ARM patches 
> posted or reviewed by other Atmel than yourself.

They were sent in 3-4 years ago.
Since there were no response, they lost interest, and have not tried since then.
They are maintaining a separate U-Boot source package.

> 
> So for the time being, we gladly accept that Jean-Christophe volunteered to 
> take over this custodianship. From my point of view, he is doing a very good 
> job with his other U-Boot activities. So I expect that the AT91 support could 
> be handled better from now on.

Have no criticism against Jean-Christophe, but I think that support for 
new chips may be available earlier with the AT91 team.

> 
> But again, we are open for other suggestions here too. If you think someone at 
> Atmel is better suited to do this job, then please let us know.

I will not have the time to maintain, that is for sure.

I think that the issue needs to be raised with the AT91 team, but it might be that
the AT91 team decides that they rather work closely with Jean-Christophe.

Andrew Victor is doing a good job maintaining the AT91 Linux port
so there is a precedent for this already.

> 
> BTW: If somebody else feels suited to take over some open custodianships (PCI, 
> RTC, HWMON come to my mind right now), please let us know too. :)


> Thanks.
> 
> Best regards,
> Stefan


Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson

[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Stefan Roese]

On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> >> Would it not be better if the Atmel ARM was handled by the Atmel AT91
> >> Product line
> >
> > Could be, I really don't know. I don't remember seeing Atmel ARM patches
> > posted or reviewed by other Atmel than yourself.
>
> They were sent in 3-4 years ago.
> Since there were no response, they lost interest, and have not tried since
> then. They are maintaining a separate U-Boot source package.

Too bad. I think it would be a good idea, if "they" would try to work with 
the "official" U-Boot community again. Now with the custodian framework in 
place, some problems of the past should be solved.

> > So for the time being, we gladly accept that Jean-Christophe volunteered
> > to take over this custodianship. From my point of view, he is doing a
> > very good job with his other U-Boot activities. So I expect that the AT91
> > support could be handled better from now on.
>
> Have no criticism against Jean-Christophe, but I think that support for
> new chips may be available earlier with the AT91 team.

Right. That's for sure.

> > But again, we are open for other suggestions here too. If you think
> > someone at Atmel is better suited to do this job, then please let us
> > know.
>
> I will not have the time to maintain, that is for sure.

Understood.

> I think that the issue needs to be raised with the AT91 team, but it might
> be that the AT91 team decides that they rather work closely with
> Jean-Christophe.

That's of course also an option.

Best regards,
Stefan

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[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Ulf Samuelsson]

> On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
>> >> Would it not be better if the Atmel ARM was handled by the Atmel AT91
>> >> Product line
>> >
>> > Could be, I really don't know. I don't remember seeing Atmel ARM patches
>> > posted or reviewed by other Atmel than yourself.
>>
>> They were sent in 3-4 years ago.
>> Since there were no response, they lost interest, and have not tried since
>> then. They are maintaining a separate U-Boot source package.
> 
> Too bad. I think it would be a good idea, if "they" would try to work with 
> the "official" U-Boot community again. Now with the custodian framework in 
> place, some problems of the past should be solved.
> 

I 'bcc' our own "Jean-Christophe" (Zettel) running the AT91 apps team
and he will have to discuss with the S/W team and decide.

>> > So for the time being, we gladly accept that Jean-Christophe volunteered
>> > to take over this custodianship. From my point of view, he is doing a
>> > very good job with his other U-Boot activities. So I expect that the AT91
>> > support could be handled better from now on.
>>
>> Have no criticism against Jean-Christophe, but I think that support for
>> new chips may be available earlier with the AT91 team.
> 
> Right. That's for sure.
> 
>> > But again, we are open for other suggestions here too. If you think
>> > someone at Atmel is better suited to do this job, then please let us
>> > know.
>>
>> I will not have the time to maintain, that is for sure.
> 
> Understood.
> 
>> I think that the issue needs to be raised with the AT91 team, but it might
>> be that the AT91 team decides that they rather work closely with
>> Jean-Christophe.
> 
> That's of course also an option.
> 
> Best regards,
> Stefan


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[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Nicolas Ferre]

Ulf Samuelsson <ulf.samuelsson <at> atmel.com> writes:

> 
> > On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> >> > Here a short announcement about a change in the U-Boot ARM 
> >> > custodianship:
> >> >
> >> > Since the ARM platform is so broad and has multiple vendor
> >> > specific "sub-architectures" it seemed necessary to add new U-Boot
> >> > custodian branches for those architectures. Fortunately we had some
> >> > volunteers. Here the list:
> >> >
> >> > u-boot-at91 (Atmel ARM)         Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard

[..]

> >> Would it not be better if the Atmel ARM was handled by the Atmel AT91
> >> Product line

We (the AT91 software team) do not have this opinion. It is very enriching 
to work with people from the community.

> > Could be, I really don't know. I don't remember seeing Atmel ARM patches 
> > posted or reviewed by other Atmel than yourself.
> 
> They were sent in 3-4 years ago.
> Since there were no response, they lost interest, and have not tried 
> since then.
> They are maintaining a separate U-Boot source package.

Ulf, we do not lose interest ! We simply do not have the
opportunity to rebase and test our work against the latest developments 
for all chips&boards.
This opportunity is here now and we will be glad to contribute.

> > So for the time being, we gladly accept that Jean-Christophe volunteered 
> > to take over this custodianship. From my point of view, he is doing a 
> > very good job with his other U-Boot activities. So I expect that the 
> > AT91 support could be handled better from now on.
> 
> Have no criticism against Jean-Christophe, but I think that support for 
> new chips may be available earlier with the AT91 team.

We  will, for sure, work with Jean-Christophe and all AT91 u-boot 
contributors for new chips introduction.

> > But again, we are open for other suggestions here too. If you think 
> > someone at Atmel is better suited to do this job, then please let us 
> > know.
> 
> I will not have the time to maintain, that is for sure.
> 
> I think that the issue needs to be raised with the AT91 team, but it 
> might be that the AT91 team decides that they rather work closely 
> with Jean-Christophe.
> 
> Andrew Victor is doing a good job maintaining the AT91 Linux port
> so there is a precedent for this already.

It is exactly the kind of relationship we would like to build with the 
new custodian.

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Ferre

[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Nicolas Ferre]

Ulf Samuelsson <ulf.samuelsson <at> atmel.com> writes:

> > Too bad. I think it would be a good idea, if "they" would try to work with 
> > the "official" U-Boot community again. Now with the custodian framework in 
> > place, some problems of the past should be solved.
> 
> I 'bcc' our own "Jean-Christophe" (Zettel) running the AT91 apps team
> and he will have to discuss with the S/W team and decide.

"We" (the AT91 S/W team) are glad to work with the "one and only" U-Boot
community. It is the first step to move to the last codebase that is the 
hardest.

The work done by Stelian Pop to integrate AT91CAP9 shows the way for all
AT91SAM9 support. We will for sure work with Stelian Pop, Jean-Christophe
Plagniol-Villard , yourself the whole AT91 U-Boot community to have a smooth
transition to the latest codebase.

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Ferre

[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Stelian Pop]

Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 17:36 +0000, Nicolas Ferre a ?crit :
> Ulf Samuelsson <ulf.samuelsson <at> atmel.com> writes:
> 
> > > Too bad. I think it would be a good idea, if "they" would try to work with 
> > > the "official" U-Boot community again. Now with the custodian framework in 
> > > place, some problems of the past should be solved.
> > 
> > I 'bcc' our own "Jean-Christophe" (Zettel) running the AT91 apps team
> > and he will have to discuss with the S/W team and decide.
> 
> "We" (the AT91 S/W team) are glad to work with the "one and only" U-Boot
> community. It is the first step to move to the last codebase that is the 
> hardest.
> 
> The work done by Stelian Pop to integrate AT91CAP9 shows the way for all
> AT91SAM9 support. We will for sure work with Stelian Pop, Jean-Christophe
> Plagniol-Villard , yourself the whole AT91 U-Boot community to have a smooth
> transition to the latest codebase.

As a matter of fact, Atmel has already provided me with the necessary
hardware. I will shortly, as time permits, start feeding the list with
AT91SAM patches...

-- 
Stelian Pop <stelian@popies.net>

[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Stefan Roese]

On Thursday 20 March 2008, Nicolas Ferre wrote:
> Ulf Samuelsson <ulf.samuelsson <at> atmel.com> writes:
> > > Too bad. I think it would be a good idea, if "they" would try to work
> > > with the "official" U-Boot community again. Now with the custodian
> > > framework in place, some problems of the past should be solved.
> >
> > I 'bcc' our own "Jean-Christophe" (Zettel) running the AT91 apps team
> > and he will have to discuss with the S/W team and decide.
>
> "We" (the AT91 S/W team) are glad to work with the "one and only" U-Boot
> community.

That's really great news.

> It is the first step to move to the last codebase that is the 
> hardest.

Right.

> The work done by Stelian Pop to integrate AT91CAP9 shows the way for all
> AT91SAM9 support. We will for sure work with Stelian Pop, Jean-Christophe
> Plagniol-Villard , yourself the whole AT91 U-Boot community to have a
> smooth transition to the latest codebase.

Thank you Nicolas. Really appreciated.

Best regards,
Stefan

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[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Ulf Samuelsson]

> On Thursday 20 March 2008, Nicolas Ferre wrote:
>> Ulf Samuelsson <ulf.samuelsson <at> atmel.com> writes:
>> > > Too bad. I think it would be a good idea, if "they" would try to work
>> > > with the "official" U-Boot community again. Now with the custodian
>> > > framework in place, some problems of the past should be solved.
>> >
>> > I 'bcc' our own "Jean-Christophe" (Zettel) running the AT91 apps team
>> > and he will have to discuss with the S/W team and decide.
>>
>> "We" (the AT91 S/W team) are glad to work with the "one and only" U-Boot
>> community.
> 
> That's really great news.
> 
>> It is the first step to move to the last codebase that is the 
>> hardest.
> 
> Right.
> 
>> The work done by Stelian Pop to integrate AT91CAP9 shows the way for all
>> AT91SAM9 support. We will for sure work with Stelian Pop, Jean-Christophe
>> Plagniol-Villard , yourself the whole AT91 U-Boot community to have a
>> smooth transition to the latest codebase.
> 
> Thank you Nicolas. Really appreciated.
> 
> Best regards,
> Stefan
> 

Yes, I think we have an agreement between all involved parties then!


Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson 

[U-Boot-Users] ARM custodian change

[Haavard Skinnemoen]

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:12:36 +0000 (UTC)
Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com> wrote:

> > >> > u-boot-at91 (Atmel ARM)         Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard  

> Ulf, we do not lose interest ! We simply do not have the
> opportunity to rebase and test our work against the latest developments 
> for all chips&boards.
> This opportunity is here now and we will be glad to contribute.

I'm very happy to hear that!

I think sharing drivers between AVR32 and AT91 has made both platforms
better on Linux, and I hope we can do the same thing with u-boot
(Stelian's patches are certainly a good start.)

Haavard