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From: Ulf Samuelsson <ulf@atmel.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 01:58:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <030501c783a8$3ccbebd0$01c4af0a@Glamdring> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20070420232905.A8BD2352650@atlas.denx.de

>> Could you post a list of configuration parameters that you'd rather not 
>> see in a board
>> header file?  When I created MPC8349ITX.h, I just followed the example of 
>> other 83xx
>> boards.  I defined the network CONFIG_ options, because I thought that a 
>> flash-default
>> setting would be useful.
>
> At least partially it's a matter of taste. I tend to rather make sure
> that a user of the board sees that he must provide  his  own  network
> configuration  by providing no default setting, rather then having to
> deal with nasty network issues because several boards share the  same
> IP or - even worse - MAC addresses.
>
>
> Just use common sense. Anything that is board-specific  should  never
> be  set  in  the  board  config file because that would mean that all
> boards would share this property in the default configuration.
>
> An absolute no-no is CONFIG_ETH*ADDR.
>
> Similar, attempts to define a standard setting for "serial#" are
> seriously broken.
>
> I also consider it bad design to set CONFIG_IPADDR an CONFIG_HOSTNAME
>
>
> Note that you *can* do all these things, if you know exactly what you
> are doing - that's whey the feature is there. But shipping boards  to
> customer  with  all  set  to  the  same  MAC  address is a felony and
> deserves serious punishment (hello Andrea!).

I am not shipping *any* boards to anyone, so I dont have the problem...

If you want to avoid misuse of the feature, you could actually reserve a 
specific
ethaddr for production use in a point to point configuration
and check for this ethaddr when you boot.
If you have this ethaddr, then you will not boot, and will instead print an 
error message...

>
> Ulf was (originally) asking for a customization feature; of course it
> makes sense to customize boards during production, for example to set
> board-specific values for MAC address, serial number, etc.  But  this
> can, and should, be done without creating different U-Boot images.
>

Again, none of these values are BOARD specific.
The board specific values are set using "autoscr"
but you can't tftp down a script without an ethaddr, can you?

Again, very little of the discussion is still about the patch itself.


The reason for the patch , is that I would want to be able to generate some
arbitrary configuration items using scripts (or even by a simple copy)
and I do not want to modify any board.h files to do this.

Is this really a bad thing?



> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
>
> -- 


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-20 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-20 19:22 [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure network parameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 20:40 ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-20 20:49   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 20:55   ` Ben Warren
2007-04-20 21:51     ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configurenetwork parameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 23:12       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:39         ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-21  0:31           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-21  6:07             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-21  6:17             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 19:56           ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-22 20:25             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 20:30               ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-22 21:27             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 21:59   ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure network parameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 23:14     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:46       ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 20:47 ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure network parameters Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 21:35   ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-20 22:59     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:29       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-21  0:25         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-21  6:05           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-21 10:37             ` Robert Schwebel
2007-04-22  5:30               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22  7:27                 ` Robert Schwebel
2007-04-22  8:45                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 11:05                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 13:16                       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 13:58                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 14:28                           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 18:48                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 10:30                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:03   ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure network parameters Timur Tabi
2007-04-20 23:29     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-20 23:58       ` Ulf Samuelsson [this message]
2007-04-21 12:41       ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-04-22 20:11       ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-22 20:31         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-22 21:50           ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 23:57             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23  5:43               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-23  6:46                 ` [U-Boot-Users] MPC8343 I2C problem Monstr at seznam.cz
2007-04-23 14:46                   ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23  7:00                 ` [U-Boot-Users] MPC8343 NET without PHY Monstr at seznam.cz
2007-04-23 14:51                   ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23  8:59                 ` [U-Boot-Users] Proposal for patch to configure networkparameters Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23  9:24                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-23 10:50                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23  9:01                 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-22 21:38         ` Ulf Samuelsson

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