From: Peter Tyser <ptyser@xes-inc.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/2] Make sure 85xx bss doesn't start at 0x0
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:24:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1254839043.24664.1890.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1DE23DE0-B901-4E15-845C-43889EE0B178@kernel.crashing.org>
On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 09:07 -0500, Kumar Gala wrote:
> >>> This whole "bss at 0x0" is a myth to me.
> >>
> >> Do a readelf on most MPC8548 boards, eg MPC8548CDS. __bss_start is
> >> also
> >> located at 0x0 for these boards, which is the issue this patch
> >> attempted
> >> to address.
> >
> > I know that this _is_ the case. My questions meant: _why_ is this the
> > case? My speculkation is that it's just by accident, because the bss
> > was located just after the instruction allocated for the reset
> > vector; this being at 0xFFFFFFFC on most 8xxx systems, the address
> > counter wrapped around on 32 bit tool chains, resulting in 0x0.
> >
> >> The current U-Boot code is already relocating this bss address
> >> higher up
> >> in SDRAM during relocation, all this patch does is add 0x10 bytes to
> >> that address. I had assumed the current code was working, but
> >> perhaps
> >> there's a bigger issue...
> >
> > I don;t think it's an issue. The code seems to work. But I wonder if
> > we could not simplify all this buy defining an arbitrary, non-zero
> > address.
> >
> >> I shied away from this since as the text/data/bss grow at some
> >> point the
> >> bss is going to overlap with the boot page. I think ld would
> >> intelligently wrap the bss around the boot page, but U-Boot won't
> >> be so
> >> intelligent when the bss is zeroed out:) The bss address range would
> >> also wrap back around to 0x0. I didn't feel good about zeroing out
> >> the
> >
> > But bss is NOLOAD, and the actual location in the flash is just a
> > fiction - we never use anything of this but the start address.
My concern was that we use __bss_start and _end to calculate the size of
the bss to zero out. If the bss wraps, I'd be concerned about what gets
cleared as _end would be truncated to a low memory address while
__bss_start would be a high memory address. Or other similar problems -
I didn't investigate what would really happen, I was just worried what
could happen:)
> Where is BSS on 44x boards? I dont see any reason we shouldn't be
> able to put it at the same location.
From the XPedite1000:
[ 0] NULL 00000000 000000 000000 00 0 0 0
[ 1] .resetvec PROGBITS fffffffc 03f2e4 000004 00 AX 0 0 1
[ 2] .bootpg PROGBITS fffff000 03e2e8 000250 00 AX 0 0 1
[ 3] .text PROGBITS fff80000 000094 0303b0 00 AX 0 0 4
[ 4] .rodata PROGBITS fffb03b0 030444 00a14c 00 A 0 0 4
[ 5] .reloc PROGBITS fffba500 03a594 002280 00 WA 0 0 4
[ 6] .data PROGBITS fffbc780 03c814 00088c 00 WA 0 0 4
[ 7] .data.rel.local PROGBITS fffbd00c 03d0a0 000a98 00 WA 0 0 4
[ 8] .data.rel.ro.loca PROGBITS fffbdaa4 03db38 0000b0 00 WA 0 0 4
[ 9] .data.rel PROGBITS fffbdb54 03dbe8 000100 00 WA 0 0 4
[10] .u_boot_cmd PROGBITS fffbdc54 03dce8 000600 00 WA 0 0 4
[11] .bss NOBITS fffbe300 03e2e8 011c44 00 WA 0 0 4
I shied away from this for the 2 reasons above - the bootpg section will
be wiped out when the bss is cleared for images near their maximum size
and I wasn't sure if there were any ramifications about the bss wrapping
around to 0. Other arches must have a similar issue which would
somewhat imply:
1. No one cares if their bootpg/reset vector is cleared
2. U-Boot works even if the bss wraps around to 0.
If everyone is OK with the limitation of #1 above I can make the 85xx
act like the other PPC boards. The only downside I see is that we could
never put any non-reset related code in the bootpg.
Best,
Peter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-06 14:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-05 23:01 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/2] Make sure 85xx bss doesn't start at 0x0 Peter Tyser
2009-10-05 23:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] 85xx: Preprocess link scripts Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 7:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 11:13 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-05 23:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] 85xx: Ensure BSS segment doesn't start at address 0x0 Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 8:54 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 12:10 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 7:32 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/2] Make sure 85xx bss doesn't start at 0x0 Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 12:01 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 14:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 14:07 ` Kumar Gala
2009-10-06 14:24 ` Peter Tyser [this message]
2009-10-06 15:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 15:45 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 17:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 18:08 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 20:34 ` J. William Campbell
2009-10-06 20:53 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 22:34 ` J. William Campbell
2009-10-06 23:10 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 23:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 23:43 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-07 0:09 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-07 1:24 ` Graeme Russ
2009-10-07 6:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-07 9:56 ` Graeme Russ
2009-10-07 10:07 ` Graeme Russ
2009-10-07 10:32 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2009-10-07 14:37 ` J. William Campbell
2009-10-07 6:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-07 11:57 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-07 12:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 23:07 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 23:29 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-07 6:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 20:46 ` Kumar Gala
2009-10-06 21:13 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 16:53 ` Stefan Roese
2009-10-06 15:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 15:20 ` Peter Tyser
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