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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 18:21:37 +0200 Message-ID: <132644.1625761297@gemini.denx.de> X-BeenThere: u-boot@lists.denx.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: U-Boot discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: u-boot-bounces@lists.denx.de Sender: "U-Boot" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.2 at phobos.denx.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Dear Sean, In message you wrote: > ... > And yet, this is not the field we compete in. While bourne-style shells > can take advantage of a multi-threaded environment, embedded shells tend > to implement a much wider set of languages. See [1] for a survey of > examples. > > [1] https://github.com/dbohdan/embedded-scripting-languages "Embedded scripting languages" is probably not a good match for what we are discussing. I don't think this comparison was made for restricted boot loader environments, but for use in general purpose / embedded operating systems. Hey, they even list Forth there. Maybe somebody should port OpenBoot, so we can have a Forth interpreter as new commandline language? We could implement device trees in the old, traditional way then, too :-) Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@denx.de There are bugs and then there are bugs. And then there are bugs. - Karl Lehenbauer