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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC] command/cache: Add flush_cache command
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:48:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1363970929.24790.3@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <514C6AB0.7090808@ti.com> (from trini@ti.com on Fri Mar 22 09:29:04 2013)

On 03/22/2013 09:29:04 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
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> On 03/22/2013 10:03 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > Dear Tom,
> >
> > In message <514C4BE8.10508@ti.com> you wrote:
> >>
> >> It seems like we're going around and around with one point not
> >> being addressed.  When using 'go', how do you know the size to
> >> flush?  And since Scott is talking about performance testing
> >> apps, the cache should not be disabled (unless we expect all
> >> standalone apps to enable the cache, in which case we need to
> >> provide something in the jump table to make that easy and
> >> document this change).
> >
> > I also wonder about this. To me it appears much easier to use a
> > IH_TYPE_STANDALONE image, which 1) provides the needed size
> > information and 2) can be used with bootm, so the required
> > additional steps (flush caches, release CPU) can be handled in
> > bootm subcommands.
> 
> But that then circles us back to Scott's other point of "go" is broken
> then and it is the recommended way to start standalone applications.
> 
> Now, if we want to change things and say that no, you can't just run
> totally raw binaries reliably with "go" but instead need to throw some
> form of header on top of them, how portable, really, is mkimage?
> We've just made that a required part of the work-flow for anyone doing
> development that's not producing ELF or something else already
> boot*'able.  That might be a rather large pool I suspect.
> 
> Scott, part of the problem here is that we have multiple cores, yes?
> Say core0 is the one that read things in from NOR to DDR, core1 is the
> one that will be running things.  How about we make flush_cache depend
> on CONFIG_MP || CONFIG_CMD_CACHE_FLUSH ?  It's a likely required often
> thing for CONFIG_MP systems and anyone else that needs it can opt-in.

Multiple CPUs may make it more likely to see problems on some hardware,  
but architecturally on PPC the flush is required even with a single  
CPU.  Icache fetches won't snoop the dcache.

Can we have it depend on a new config symbol, so it's not bloating  
anyone's U-Boot who doesn't want it, and deal with improvements to  
recommended standalone app workflow as a separate issue?  We're not  
talking about a huge amount of code here, just exposing functionality  
that U-Boot already has internally.

-Scott

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-22 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-19 20:29 [U-Boot] [RFC] command/cache: Add flush_cache command York Sun
2013-03-19 22:01 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-19 22:07   ` York Sun
2013-03-19 23:32     ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 13:59       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 14:58         ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 16:43           ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 17:38             ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 18:16               ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 19:15             ` Tom Rini
2013-03-20 19:36               ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 19:59                 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-20 21:31                   ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21  5:42                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21  5:39                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 12:29                     ` Tom Rini
2013-03-21 13:37                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 18:22                         ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 19:25                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 20:34                             ` Scott Wood
2013-03-22  6:30                               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-22 12:17                                 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 14:03                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-22 14:29                                     ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 15:57                                       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-22 16:48                                       ` Scott Wood [this message]
2013-03-22 17:19                                         ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 20:39                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 22:11                 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 22:35                   ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 23:33                     ` Michael Cashwell
2013-03-20 23:48                       ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21  0:27                         ` Michael Cashwell
2013-03-21  0:31                           ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21  5:02                             ` Sricharan R
2013-03-21 18:51                               ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 17:58                     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-21 18:07                       ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 19:21                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 19:40               ` York Sun
2013-03-20 14:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 16:44   ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 14:02 ` Jim Chargin
2013-04-18 17:09   ` Scott Wood

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