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From: Ian Campbell <ijc+uboot@hellion.org.uk>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] sunxi: display: Align end of memory to work around a linux-4.0 bug
Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 10:36:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1430732203.15640.220.camel@hellion.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55473315.3020508@redhat.com>

On Mon, 2015-05-04 at 10:51 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 02-05-15 15:21, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 20:39 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> >> Linux-4.0 as shipped has a bug causing it to not boot if the end of memory
> >> is not aligned to a multiple of 2 MiB. For details see the linux-arm
> >> mailing list post titled:
> >> "Memory size unaligned to section boundary"
> >> http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg413811.html
> >>
> >> This is something which specifically hits the sunxi display driver because
> >> we carve out the exact needed framebuffer size at the top of mem, this
> >> commit works around this issue by aligning the carve out.
> >
> > I'm afraid I don't like this, we shouldn't be working around Linux bugs
> > in the firmware, especially when both are Free software. Lets just fix
> > Linux and get the fix into the appropriate stable trees and in the
> > meantime tell people to avoid this buggy kernel.
> >
> > The problem with this sort of thing is that it is very hard to get rid
> > of these workarounds, even once the underlying issue is fixed and we no
> > longer care about the versions with the bug OS authors (including
> > non-Linux OSes) can inadvertently come to rely on the quirky behaviour,
> > (i.e. the work around masks other bugs). Hence we end up in a
> > quirks-race as everyone works around the other parties last workaround.
> >
> > If there is to be a workaround instead of a fix then it should be for
> > Linux to align memory to 2MB boundaries if that is what it requires.
> 
> I can understand where you're coming from, the problem is that despite
> various mails to the arm kernel mailing list no one from the upstream
> kernel seems to be looking into this,

Mark, do you think you could find some cycles (not necessarily your own)
to look at this, or perhaps you know the appropriate maintainers to
ping?

I'd really like to avoid having to hack around kernel bugs in the
firmware.

>  and I've no clue where to even
> begun looking.
> 
> In the mean time any sunxi boards users using a 1024x600 framebuffer (and
> likely other resulutions, 1024x600 is just one known way to trigger the
> problem), trying to boot using the latest upstream kernel end up with
> a non working system, without any clue as to why the kernel dies
> (as it dies really early). This also means that people trying to bring
> up new boards will not succeed, costing us potential contributors.

I see where you are coming from here, but really this should just be a
short term problem, one which can be solved by a) making plenty of noise
on the right lists and b) appropriate docs for new comers pointing out
this pitfall.

Adding the workaround just makes this into a long term problem.

> All in all I really believe that this is something which we should
> workaround, also keep in mind that what we're doing is quite special
> (clearly otherwise the bug would hit more users), we are not just curving
> out X MB of RAM at the top, but exactly the amount we need, and no more,
> lots of boards likely just carve out 8 / 16 MiB and thus are fine.

I could see an argument for us doing similarly, just not the argument
for doing it as a temporary workaround (since in reality it likely won't
be).

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-04  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-24 18:39 [U-Boot] [PATCH] sunxi: display: Align end of memory to work around a linux-4.0 bug Hans de Goede
2015-05-02 13:21 ` Ian Campbell
2015-05-04  8:51   ` Hans de Goede
2015-05-04  9:36     ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-05-05  9:39       ` Mark Rutland
2015-05-12 13:53         ` Mark Rutland
2015-05-12 14:31           ` Ian Campbell

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