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From: Andrey Volkov <avolkov@varma-el.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] BDI vs. Lauterbach
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:17:25 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1618325846.20060410201725@varma-el.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060410153222.A513C353B3C@atlas.denx.de>

On Monday, April 10, 2006, Wolfgang Denk wrote:

> In message <427722615.20060410170041@varma-el.com> you wrote:
>>
>> Pros:

> meaning: pro for Lauterbach, just to make it clear.
Yes

>>      BDI - 10Mbit eth, Lauterbach - 100 Mbit.
> This does not mean anything. I haven't seen a single case  where  the
> network  speed  was  the limiting factor. Shuffeling the data through
> the JTAG is usually much slower.
Not always. As ex.:  allowable MPC5200 JTAG's clock is ... 25 MHz,
clock of 10 Mbit eth is ... + tcp stack overhead. And now we run
memory dump command and measure.

>>      Lauterbach scalable and simply extendable, BDI - not.

> What would you want to extend or scale?
Lauterbach like Lego, constructing from modules: from dumb
LPT<->jtg upto monster-alike in-circuit emulator
(I didn't talk about how _much_ smb. will pay for it,
I talk about possibility).

>> Cons:
>>      BDI support gnu toolchain natively (in GDB server mode),

> In other words: The  BDI2000  fits  seamlessly  into  a  Linux  based
> development  environment.  You  can  use exact the same tools and and
> user interface for low level stuff (boot loader,  OS  and  drivers  -
> using the BDI) and for application code (using gdbserver).
Yes.

>>      Lauterbach - not (sometime it parsing elf/dwarf correctly,
>>      sometime, usually in critical cases :), not).

> Question: does the Lauterbach reliably handle issues like  relocating
> the symbol table as needed fur U-Boot?
I'm not sure, since I doesn't work with Lb approx. 3 years,
but probably it could.

>>      And you are know, hmm, strange Lauterbach price policy:
>>      price of BDI firmware for a new CPU target is approx. 1000 eur,
>>      for the Lauterbach - price of new device.

> Another pro for the BDI: they have  *excellent*  support.  I  know  a
> couple  of vendors of hardware and tools etc. Some of them are really
> good, but Abatron beats them all.

Don't asking them for a help, since my BDI work as predicted,
so it may be pros also :).

> Best regards,
> Wolfgang Denk

-- 
Regards,
Andrey Volkov

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-10 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-10 12:38 [U-Boot-Users] BDI vs. Lauterbach David Snowdon
2006-04-10 13:00 ` Andrey Volkov
2006-04-10 15:32   ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-10 16:17     ` Andrey Volkov [this message]
2006-04-10 16:38       ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-10 18:04         ` Andrey Volkov
2006-04-11  6:06     ` [U-Boot-Users] " Wolfram Wadepohl
2006-04-10 16:35   ` [U-Boot-Users] " llandre
2006-04-10 17:58     ` Andrey Volkov
2006-04-10 19:48       ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-10 22:10         ` Andrey Volkov
2006-04-11 10:41     ` Andreas Schweigstill
2006-04-12  7:54       ` David Snowdon
2006-04-12 10:07         ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-13  6:17           ` David Snowdon
2006-04-13  6:43             ` Marco Cavallini
2006-04-10 17:00   ` Marco Cavallini
2006-04-10 18:20     ` Frank
2006-04-10 22:04       ` Andrey Volkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-10 13:02 Woodruff, Richard

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