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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] GPL Licensing issues
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:22:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040927072212.C565BC1430@atlas.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:54:48 PDT." <6.1.1.1.0.20040926174406.01e1d130@wheresmymailserver.com>

In message <6.1.1.1.0.20040926174406.01e1d130@wheresmymailserver.com> you wrote:
> The files in the examples directory - since everything needs to be linked 
> to u-boot to work, and u-boot is released under the GPL, does that mean 
> that custom user applications are also under the GPL - or do you use 
> Linus's relationship of kernel/application separation?

Standalone applications only use exported U-Boot  services.  They  do
not  have  to  be linked against any U-Boot code. So ther eis no need
for  standalone  applications  to  be  GPLed  -  exactly   like   the
kernel/application separation in Linux.

> Either is OK - I was just going to be talking to some people and wanted to 
> make sure they understood things about how to keep their secret sauce to 
> them selves.

See http://www.denx.de/twiki/bin/view/UBootdoc/Presentation for some
materrial I prepared for soem U-Boot presentations myself; it covers
this topic in
http://www.denx.de/twiki/bin/view/UBootdoc/StandalonePrograms

> I assume that if it does use U-Boot functions, then the application is a 
> derivative work, and should be covered under the GPL (must make available 

But standalone applications doe not use U-Boot functions by  linking,
only through the exported interface. Just like Linux system calls.

> source, per the GPL). If the application does not use any U-boot functions, 
> it would not be classified a derivative work - because it could be stand 
> alone program, and burned into flash without U-boot to load it.

No. You can burn it into flash, but you still need U-boot to run it -
like you need  a  Linux  kernel  to  run  a  proprietary  application
program.


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Software Engineering:  Embedded and Realtime Systems,  Embedded Linux
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-27  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-26 20:29 [U-Boot-Users] U-Boot not responding back to ARP requests? Robin Getz
2004-09-26 22:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2004-09-27  0:54 ` [U-Boot-Users] GPL Licensing issues Robin Getz
2004-09-27  6:27   ` Marc Leeman
2004-09-27  7:28     ` Wolfgang Denk
2004-09-27  8:24       ` Marc Leeman
2004-09-27 10:29         ` Marius Groeger
2004-09-27 11:12           ` Marc Leeman
2004-09-27 12:40       ` Doug Kehn
2004-09-27 20:20         ` Wolfgang Denk
2004-09-27  7:22   ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-27  8:04 Robin Getz

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