public inbox for u-boot@lists.denx.de
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Brent Cook <bcook@bpointsys.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] software FP yada yada yada
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:57:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610121657.48795.bcook@bpointsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <006b01c6ee47$b1534170$0d68fe51@atmel.com>

On Thursday 12 October 2006 16:44, Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> >> According to the crosstool documentation at www.kegel.com:
> >>
> >> Most combinations of gcc 3.x.x and binutils fails when you try to build
> >> a softfloat toolchain All tested combinations of gcc-4.x.x and binutils
> >> fails if softfloat is enabled. If you want to use gcc 4, you cannot
> >> build u-boot as is.
> >
> > FYI, I have successfully used GCC 4.1.1 and binutils 2.16.1 to build not
> > only a working armv5teb softfloat toolchain (with glibc 2.4 to boot), but
> > also build and use u-boot 1.1.4 and the latest git head with no problems
> > at all.
> >
> > Granted, I built the toolchain from scratch - it takes a number of tweaks
> > to build correctly, all of which are not in crosstool.
>
> Is there any true benefit of using a softfloat toochain?
> The number of floating point operation is surely minimal in U.boot.
> Anyone got an idea if there is any code saving.
>
> Best Regards
> Ulf Samuelsson

It's pretty darn minimal in u-boot. If you build Linux with this toolchain 
however, and have a non-trivial number of floating point operations in your 
application code, you could end up causing a lot of processor exceptions, 
which get caught by the kernel and run through the FP emulator. The gist 
would be that userland code has to do a context switch to the kernel for 
every FP operation if you build with a hard-float toolchain. With a 
soft-float toolchain, it stays in userland, and is a bit faster and more 
efficient (as efficient as soft floating point can be.)

 - Brent

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-12 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-12 20:00 [U-Boot-Users] software FP yada yada yada Matt Gessner
2006-10-12 20:30 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-10-12 20:49   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2006-10-12 21:35     ` Brent Cook
2006-10-12 21:44       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2006-10-12 21:57         ` Brent Cook [this message]
2006-10-12 21:48     ` Leonid
2006-10-12 23:16     ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-10-13  4:44       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2006-10-13  7:54         ` Robert Schwebel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-12 20:32 Matt Gessner
2006-10-12 21:02 ` Wolfgang Denk

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=200610121657.48795.bcook@bpointsys.com \
    --to=bcook@bpointsys.com \
    --cc=u-boot@lists.denx.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox