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From: Ladislav Michl <ladis@linux-mips.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Question about CFG_ENV_ADDR during RAMBOOT
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 13:37:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070528113756.GA7121@michl.2n.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8r0FHjm57tdb.nQDcqRvm@mailout.dof.se>

On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 12:53:31PM +0200, Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> => OK, then tell me how
>    to compare a 6 MB
>    file in flash with a 6MB
>    file in SDRAM when
>    your SDRAM is 8 MB.

Chunk by chunk?
But indeed, there is a little problem. It would be usefull to show
address which contains diferences from the beginning of dataflash
(or dataflash partition)...

>    We are *not* running on
>    PC's.

Perhaps it would help, if we could avoid ourselves to state the
obvious...

>    There is nothing that stops
>    "power users" from copying
>    from dataflash to SDRAM 
>    and then doing a compare.
>    Power Users are limited
>    by implementations which
>    waste enormous resources.

Anyone who copies whole file into RAM and then does compare has either a
lot of RAM or doesn't deserve to be called power user.

Lines 303-308 of common/cmd_mem.c reads (cmp command):
#ifdef CONFIG_HAS_DATAFLASH
        if (addr_dataflash(addr1) | addr_dataflash(addr2)){
                puts ("Comparison with DataFlash space not supported.\n\r");
                return 0;
        }
#endif

On my boards it leads to:
# cmp.l 10000000 C0000000 10
Comparison with DataFlash space not supported.

Therefore it seems I have to copy to RAM anyway and it doesn't seem to
be fixed by any patch at ftp 81.80.104.162.

>    I would have more respects
>    for exhibited views if writes
>    to parallel flash is removed
>    from cp.b...
>    Parallel flash is clearly not
>    "memory" for write 
>     purposes, only for read
>     purposes.
>     Its existence in cp.b will 
>     force endless #ifdefs
>     or support for parallel flash
>     will have to remain and
>    bloat code.

Erm... This interface is finished, contains finite number of features
and certainly finite numbers of #ifdefs. This number could be reduced
even more by removing hacks for MMC.

>     You could then argue that 
>     support for parallel flash 
>     should be removed from
>     all commands to remove
>     inconsistencies...
> 
>    I do not think this will
>    happen because it is
>    *useful* and because
>    this affects boards which
>    people that makes 
>    decisions works with
>    this. They do not work
>    with dataflash and do
>    not care about people
>    that wants this.

I have two AT91RM9200 based boards here. One boots from dataflash,
stores enviroment here and loads kernel from NAND. Sure I care about
dataflash support...

>    I think that consistency
>    in argumentation is a
>    reasonable demand.
>    
>    * BYTE WRITE
> 
>    Why should you waste
>    time on copying dataflash
>    to SDRAM when you can 
>    do operations inside the
>    internal SRAM.
> 
>    It is not desirable to transfer
>    20,000 bits between CPU
>    and dataflash when 100-200
>    are sufficient.

Could you please point exactly where I suggested such behaviour?

Best regards,
	ladis

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-28 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-26 10:53 [U-Boot-Users] Question about CFG_ENV_ADDR during RAMBOOT Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-26 13:15 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-28 11:37 ` Ladislav Michl [this message]
2007-05-28 14:08   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-28 15:39     ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-28 16:16       ` Håvard Skinnemoen
2007-05-28 16:56         ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-28 19:39           ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-29  0:10             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-29 22:13               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-29 22:46                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-29 23:15                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-29 23:39                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-30  0:46                       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-30  6:57                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-30 10:52                           ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-30 13:43                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-30 18:11                               ` Ulf Samuelsson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-30 11:34 Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-30 12:16 ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-30 13:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-30 18:23   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-30 23:19     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-16 19:58 Timur Tabi
2007-05-22 20:36 ` Timur Tabi
2007-05-22 20:53   ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-05-22 21:04     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-22 21:07       ` Timur Tabi
2007-05-23  0:15         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-23 15:58           ` Timur Tabi
2007-05-22 21:26       ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-05-22 21:20     ` Andy Fleming
2007-05-22 21:22       ` Timur Tabi
2007-05-23  0:17         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-23 14:56           ` Timur Tabi
2007-05-22 21:00   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-22 21:30     ` Andy Fleming
2007-05-23 10:04     ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-23 10:48       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-23 11:39         ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-23 12:52           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-23 13:57             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-23 16:19               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-24 12:10                 ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-24 13:03                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-24 13:34                     ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-24 19:08                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-24 21:11                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-24 21:43                       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-24 23:46                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-25  5:37                         ` Stefan Roese
2007-05-25  8:50                           ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-23 12:59           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-23 13:25             ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-23 16:05               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-24 12:29                 ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-24 18:34                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-24 18:35                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-23 12:59         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-23 15:44           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-05-23 18:08             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-05-24  9:14             ` Ladislav Michl
2007-05-25  9:06               ` Ladislav Michl

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