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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] U-Boot-NG ?
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:11:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070703211130.8BA62353AF8@atlas.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:19:33 EDT." <468AA145.8090404@smiths-aerospace.com>

In message <468AA145.8090404@smiths-aerospace.com> you wrote:
>
> One technique I've used in the past that has worked well is to output 
> successive characters at critical points in the code.  (It became known 
> around here as "alphabet soup.")  If the board stopped spitting out 
> characters prematurely, you have a clue what is wrong.

This is definitely useful for debugging. We often do similar  things;
like  ust  writing  characters  or  a  counter  to some static memory
location for post mortem analysis with a debugger.

> > MPC8260 Clock Configuration
> >  - Bus-to-Core Mult 4.5x, VCO Div 2, 60x Bus Freq  22-65 , Core Freq
> > 100-300
> >  - dfbrg 0, corecnf 0x17, busdf 5, cpmdf 1, plldf 0, pllmf 5
> >  - vco_out  597196800, scc_clk  149299200, brg_clk  149299200
> >  - cpu_clk  447897600, cpm_clk  298598400, bus_clk   99532800
> >  - pci_clk   49766400
> 
> One or two of these may be useful, but even that is debatable.

I consider it very useful.  We  had  several  cases  where  customers
reported  on  strange problems, and by just checking the printed data
we wre able to see that they either used a wrong board  configuration
for U-Boot, or that the syctem clock was off, or ...

> * Some of these, if wrong, will cause complete board failure and the
>      above won't be printed anyway.
> * Most can be deferred till after RAM reloc

No, it cannot, because then you might never  see  these  messages  at
all.

> > CPU:   MPC8280 (HiP7 Rev 14, Mask 1.0 1K49M) at 447.897 MHz
> > Board: Innovative Systems AP2, CPU1
> > Build: $SvnTreeRevision: 89 $
> Defer till after RAM reloc

NO! Please, please DON'T!

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-03 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-30  2:08 [U-Boot-Users] U-Boot-NG ? Wolfgang Denk
2007-06-30  9:40 ` Robert Schwebel
2007-06-30 22:42   ` Carsten Schlote
2007-07-01 15:39     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-02  9:58       ` Carsten Schlote
2007-07-01 15:17   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-02 11:47     ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-02 13:34       ` Carsten Schlote
2007-07-02 16:47 ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-02 17:22   ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-07-02 18:42     ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-02 23:39       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-03  0:09         ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-03  1:46           ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03  9:44             ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-03 15:36               ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 20:40                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04  8:35                 ` Robert Schwebel
2007-07-04 13:47                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 15:25                   ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 22:58             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-03  7:22           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-03  9:02             ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-06 11:53             ` [U-Boot-Users] 回复: " Songmao Tian
2007-07-02 18:25   ` Håvard Skinnemoen
2007-07-02 18:58     ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-02 19:53       ` Håvard Skinnemoen
2007-07-02 19:02   ` Carsten Schlote
2007-07-02 19:26     ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-02 20:37       ` Carsten Schlote
2007-07-02 21:56         ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-02 19:54     ` Carsten Schlote
2007-07-03 11:02       ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-03 15:35         ` Carsten Schlote
2007-07-03 16:52           ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 17:18             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-07-03 18:01               ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 17:58             ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-03 18:05               ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 18:09                 ` Rune Torgersen
2007-07-03 18:17                   ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 18:43                     ` Rune Torgersen
2007-07-03 18:54                       ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 19:12                         ` Rune Torgersen
2007-07-03 19:21                           ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 19:27                             ` Rune Torgersen
2007-07-03 19:30                               ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 19:40                                 ` Rune Torgersen
2007-07-03 19:59                             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2007-07-03 21:14                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-03 21:13                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-03 22:59                               ` Grant Likely
2007-07-03 23:13                                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04  5:22                                   ` Andrew Dyer
2007-07-04  5:34                                     ` Grant Likely
2007-07-04 13:38                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 16:00                                       ` Andrew Dyer
2007-07-04 11:46                                   ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-04 11:53                                     ` Stefan Roese
2007-07-04 12:01                                       ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-04 13:53                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 15:39                                         ` Grant Likely
2007-07-04 18:49                                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 13:51                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-03 19:19                     ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-07-03 21:11                       ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2007-07-03 21:06                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-03 18:43                   ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-03 20:55               ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04  9:32                 ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-04 10:06                   ` Stefan Roese
2007-07-04 11:28                     ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-04 11:56                       ` Stefan Roese
2007-07-04 12:21                         ` Robert Schwebel
2007-07-04 12:49                           ` Stefan Roese
2007-07-04 14:02                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 18:43                             ` Robert Schwebel
2007-07-04 19:36                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 20:40                                 ` Robert Schwebel
2007-07-04 22:25                                 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-07-05  6:04                                   ` Stefan Roese
2007-07-05  7:01                                     ` Robert Schwebel
2007-07-05  7:54                                     ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-07-04 12:26                         ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-04 12:37                           ` Stefan Roese
2007-07-04 13:09                           ` Carsten Schlote
2007-07-04 14:06                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 14:37                             ` Stefan Roese
2007-07-04 13:58                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 15:34                         ` Grant Likely
2007-07-04 12:48                       ` [U-Boot-Users] U-Boot 2.0 - How to proceed...? (was RE: U-Boot-NG ?) Carsten Schlote
2007-07-04 14:17                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 13:34                   ` [U-Boot-Users] U-Boot-NG ? Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 14:11                     ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-03 20:48             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-03 22:31               ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-03 22:55                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-03 23:09             ` Scott Wood
2007-07-04  9:37               ` Clemens Koller
2007-07-03 17:30           ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-03 18:03             ` Grant Likely
2007-07-04 14:16   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-04 14:43     ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-04 14:56       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-06  6:39   ` [U-Boot-Users] 回复: " Songmao Tian
2007-07-06 11:46     ` [U-Boot-Users] ????: " Sascha Hauer
2007-07-06 13:09       ` Songmao Tian
2007-07-06 13:27         ` Sascha Hauer
2007-07-06 14:32         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-07-06 14:53           ` Songmao Tian

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