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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
@ 2008-01-23 22:11 Jon Loeliger
  2008-01-23 22:33 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
  2008-01-24  0:41 ` Wolfgang Denk
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jon Loeliger @ 2008-01-23 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Folks,

In the spirit of the Linux and Git build systems,
I have a modified U-Boot build system that supports
a much more concise output!  One of the primary
motivations for this style of output is that it
will very readily highlight build issues and problems
as your build progresses.  The original, complete
build output is obtainable by simply supplying "V=1"
on the make invocation in exactly the same way as
both Linux and Git do today.

I've not converted all 300 boards to this new scheme
yet, but would like your feedback on the approach.
I know there are a few rough edges; those are easily
smoothed out.  I'd like to hear your comments on the
overall approach before I spend too much more time
on it!

The ambitious amongst you can clone or inspect the
repository with these modifications from here:

    git://jdl.com/software/u-boot.cfg

Here is a sample build output for the MPC8641HPCN_config.

Enjoy,
jdl

----------------------------------------------------------------

% make
    SUBDIR tools
    SYMLN environment.c
    SYMLN crc32.c
    SYMLN sha1.c
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `_depend'.
    SUBDIR examples
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `_depend'.
Generating include/autoconf.mk
    SUBDIR tools
    HOSTCC img2srec.o
    HOSTCC img2srec
    HOSTSTRIP img2srec
    HOSTCC mkimage.o
    HOSTCC crc32.o
    HOSTCC mkimage
    HOSTSTRIP mkimage
    HOSTCC envcrc.o
    HOSTCC environment.o
    HOSTCC sha1.o
    HOSTCC envcrc
    HOSTCC ubsha1.o
    HOSTCC ubsha1
    HOSTCC gen_eth_addr.o
    HOSTCC gen_eth_addr
    HOSTSTRIP gen_eth_addr
    HOSTCC bmp_logo.o
    HOSTCC bmp_logo
    HOSTSTRIP bmp_logo
    GEN /home/jdl/FSL/u-boot-cfg/include/bmp_logo.h
    SUBDIR examples
    CC hello_world.o
    CC sched.o
    CC ppc_longjmp.o
    CC ppc_setjmp.o
    CC stubs.o
    AR libstubs.a
    LINK hello_world
    OBJCOPY hello_world.srec
    LINK sched
    OBJCOPY sched.srec
    OBJCOPY hello_world.bin
    OBJCOPY sched.bin
    SUBDIR cpu/mpc86xx
    CC start.o
    SUBDIR lib_generic/
    CC bzlib.o
    CC bzlib_crctable.o
    CC bzlib_decompress.o
    CC bzlib_randtable.o
    CC bzlib_huffman.o
    CC crc32.o
    CC ctype.o
    CC display_options.o
    CC div64.o
    CC ldiv.o
    CC sha1.o
    CC string.o
    CC vsprintf.o
    CC zlib.o
    AR libgeneric.a
    SUBDIR board/freescale/common/
    CC sys_eeprom.o
    CC pixis.o
    AR libfreescale.a
    SUBDIR board/freescale/mpc8641hpcn/
    CC init.o
    CC mpc8641hpcn.o
    AR libmpc8641hpcn.a
    SUBDIR cpu/mpc86xx/
    CC cache.o
    CC traps.o
    CC cpu.o
    CC cpu_init.o
    CC speed.o
    CC interrupts.o
    CC spd_sdram.o
    AR libmpc86xx.a
    SUBDIR lib_ppc/
    CC ppcstring.o
    CC ticks.o
    CC board.o
    CC bat_rw.o
    CC cache.o
    CC extable.o
    CC kgdb.o
    CC time.o
    CC interrupts.o
    AR libppc.a
    SUBDIR fs/cramfs/
    CC cramfs.o
    CC uncompress.o
    AR libcramfs.a
    SUBDIR fs/fat/
    CC fat.o
    CC file.o
    AR libfat.a
    SUBDIR fs/fdos/
    CC fat.o
    CC vfat.o
    CC dev.o
    CC fdos.o
    CC fs.o
    CC subdir.o
    AR libfdos.a
    SUBDIR fs/jffs2/
    CC jffs2_1pass.o
    CC compr_rtime.o
    CC compr_rubin.o
    CC compr_zlib.o
    CC mini_inflate.o
    CC compr_lzo.o
    CC compr_lzari.o
    AR libjffs2.a
    SUBDIR fs/reiserfs/
    CC reiserfs.o
    CC dev.o
    CC mode_string.o
    AR libreiserfs.a
    SUBDIR fs/ext2/
    CC ext2fs.o
    CC dev.o
    AR libext2fs.a
    SUBDIR net/
    CC net.o
    CC tftp.o
    CC bootp.o
    CC rarp.o
    CC eth.o
    CC nfs.o
    CC sntp.o
    AR libnet.a
    SUBDIR disk/
    CC part.o
    CC part_mac.o
    CC part_dos.o
    CC part_iso.o
    CC part_amiga.o
    AR libdisk.a
    SUBDIR drivers/bios_emulator/
    CC atibios.o
    CC biosemu.o
    CC besys.o
    CC bios.o
    CC x86emu/decode.o
    CC x86emu/ops2.o
    CC x86emu/ops.o
    CC x86emu/prim_ops.o
    CC x86emu/sys.o
    CC x86emu/debug.o
    AR libatibiosemu.a
    SUBDIR drivers/block/
    CC ahci.o
    CC ata_piix.o
    CC sil680.o
    CC sym53c8xx.o
    CC systemace.o
    AR libblock.a
    SUBDIR drivers/dma/
    CC MCD_tasksInit.o
    CC MCD_dmaApi.o
    CC MCD_tasks.o
/usr/powerpc/bin/powerpc-linux-ar cr libdma.a MCD_tasksInit.o MCD_dmaApi.o MCD_tasks.o
    SUBDIR drivers/hwmon/
    CC adm1021.o
    CC ds1621.o
    CC ds1722.o
    CC ds1775.o
    CC lm75.o
    CC lm81.o
    AR libhwmon.a
    SUBDIR drivers/i2c/
    CC fsl_i2c.o
    CC omap1510_i2c.o
    CC omap24xx_i2c.o
    CC tsi108_i2c.o
    AR libi2c.a
    SUBDIR drivers/input/
    CC i8042.o
    CC keyboard.o
    CC pc_keyb.o
    CC ps2ser.o
    CC ps2mult.o
    AR libinput.a
    SUBDIR drivers/misc/
    CC ali512x.o
    CC ns87308.o
    CC status_led.o
    AR libmisc.a
    SUBDIR drivers/mtd/
    CC at45.o
    CC cfi_flash.o
    CC dataflash.o
    CC mw_eeprom.o
    AR libmtd.a
    SUBDIR drivers/mtd/nand/
    CC nand.o
    CC nand_base.o
    CC nand_ids.o
    CC nand_ecc.o
    CC nand_bbt.o
    CC nand_util.o
    CC fsl_upm.o
    AR libnand.a
    SUBDIR drivers/mtd/nand_legacy/
    AR libnand_legacy.a
    SUBDIR drivers/mtd/onenand/
    CC onenand_uboot.o
    CC onenand_base.o
    CC onenand_bbt.o
    AR libonenand.a
    SUBDIR drivers/net/
    CC 3c589.o
    CC bcm570x.o
    CC bcm570x_autoneg.o
    CC 5701rls.o
    CC cs8900.o
    CC dc2114x.o
    CC dm9000x.o
    CC e1000.o
    CC eepro100.o
    CC enc28j60.o
    CC fsl_mcdmafec.o
    CC inca-ip_sw.o
    CC ks8695eth.o
    CC lan91c96.o
    CC macb.o
    CC mcffec.o
    CC natsemi.o
    CC ne2000.o
    CC netarm_eth.o
    CC netconsole.o
    CC ns7520_eth.o
    CC ns8382x.o
    CC ns9750_eth.o
    CC pcnet.o
    CC plb2800_eth.o
    CC rtl8019.o
    CC rtl8139.o
    CC rtl8169.o
    CC s3c4510b_eth.o
    CC smc91111.o
    CC tigon3.o
    CC tsec.o
    CC tsi108_eth.o
    CC uli526x.o
    AR libnet.a
    SUBDIR drivers/net/sk98lin/
    CC skge.o
    CC skaddr.o
    CC skgehwt.o
    CC skgeinit.o
    CC skgepnmi.o
    CC skgesirq.o
    CC ski2c.o
    CC sklm80.o
    CC skqueue.o
    CC skrlmt.o
    CC sktimer.o
    CC skvpd.o
    CC skxmac2.o
    CC skcsum.o
    CC uboot_skb.o
    CC uboot_drv.o
    AR libsk98lin.a
    SUBDIR drivers/pci/
    CC fsl_pci_init.o
    CC pci.o
    CC pci_auto.o
    CC pci_indirect.o
    CC tsi108_pci.o
    CC w83c553f.o
    AR libpci.a
    SUBDIR drivers/pcmcia/
    CC mpc8xx_pcmcia.o
    CC pxa_pcmcia.o
    CC rpx_pcmcia.o
    CC ti_pci1410a.o
    CC tqm8xx_pcmcia.o
    CC marubun_pcmcia.o
    AR libpcmcia.a
    SUBDIR drivers/spi/
    CC mpc8xxx_spi.o
/usr/powerpc/bin/powerpc-linux-ar cr libspi.a mpc8xxx_spi.o
    SUBDIR drivers/rtc/
    CC date.o
    CC bf5xx_rtc.o
    CC ds12887.o
    CC ds1302.o
    CC ds1306.o
    CC ds1307.o
    CC ds1337.o
    CC ds1374.o
    CC ds1556.o
    CC ds164x.o
    CC ds174x.o
    CC ds3231.o
    CC m41t11.o
    CC m41t60.o
    CC max6900.o
    CC m48t35ax.o
    CC mc146818.o
    CC mk48t59.o
    CC mpc5xxx.o
    CC mpc8xx.o
    CC pcf8563.o
    CC s3c24x0_rtc.o
    CC rs5c372.o
    CC rx8025.o
    CC mcfrtc.o
    CC x1205.o
    AR librtc.a
    SUBDIR drivers/serial/
    CC atmel_usart.o
    CC mcfuart.o
    CC ns9750_serial.o
    CC ns16550.o
    CC s3c4510b_uart.o
    CC serial.o
    CC serial_max3100.o
    CC serial_pl010.o
    CC serial_pl011.o
    CC serial_xuartlite.o
    CC serial_sh.o
    CC usbtty.o
    AR libserial.a
    SUBDIR drivers/usb/
    CC isp116x-hcd.o
    CC sl811_usb.o
    CC usb_ohci.o
    CC usbdcore.o
    CC usbdcore_ep0.o
    CC usbdcore_mpc8xx.o
    CC usbdcore_omap1510.o
    AR libusb.a
    SUBDIR drivers/video/
    CC ati_radeon_fb.o
    CC cfb_console.o
    CC ct69000.o
    CC mb862xx.o
    CC sed13806.o
    CC sed156x.o
    CC sm501.o
    CC smiLynxEM.o
    CC videomodes.o
    AR libvideo.a
    SUBDIR post/
    CC post.o
    CC tests.o
    AR libpost.a
    SUBDIR post/drivers/
    CC i2c.o
    CC memory.o
    CC rtc.o
    AR libpostdrivers.a
    SUBDIR post/lib_ppc/
    CC asm.o
    CC cpu.o
    CC cmp.o
    CC cmpi.o
    CC two.o
    CC twox.o
    CC three.o
    CC threex.o
    CC threei.o
    CC andi.o
    CC srawi.o
    CC rlwnm.o
    CC rlwinm.o
    CC rlwimi.o
    CC store.o
    CC load.o
    CC cr.o
    CC b.o
    CC multi.o
    CC string.o
    CC complex.o
    AR libpostppc.a
    SUBDIR post/lib_ppc/fpu/
    CC fpu.o
    CC 20001122-1.o
    CC 20010114-2.o
    CC 20010226-1.o
    CC 980619-1.o
    CC acc1.o
    CC compare-fp-1.o
    CC mul-subnormal-single-1.o
    AR libpostppcfpu.a
    SUBDIR common/
    CC main.o
    CC ACEX1K.o
    CC altera.o
    CC bedbug.o
    CC circbuf.o
    CC cmd_autoscript.o
    CC cmd_bdinfo.o
    CC cmd_boot.o
    CC cmd_bootm.o
    CC cmd_console.o
    CC cmd_eeprom.o
    CC cmd_ext2.o
    CC cmd_fdc.o
    CC cmd_fdt.o
    CC fdt_support.o
    CC cmd_flash.o
    CC cmd_i2c.o
    CC cmd_itest.o
    CC cmd_load.o
    CC cmd_mem.o
    CC cmd_misc.o
    CC cmd_nand.o
    CC cmd_net.o
    CC cmd_nvedit.o
    CC cmd_onenand.o
    CC cmd_pci.o
    CC cmd_pcmcia.o
    CC cmd_sata.o
    CC cmd_scsi.o
    CC cmd_usb.o
    CC cmd_vfd.o
    CC command.o
    CC console.o
    CC cyclon2.o
    CC devices.o
    CC dlmalloc.o
    CC docecc.o
    CC environment.o
    CC env_common.o
    CC env_nand.o
    CC env_dataflash.o
    CC env_flash.o
    CC env_eeprom.o
    CC env_onenand.o
    CC env_nvram.o
    CC env_nowhere.o
    CC exports.o
    CC flash.o
    CC fpga.o
    CC ft_build.o
    CC hush.o
    CC kgdb.o
    CC lcd.o
    CC lists.o
    CC lynxkdi.o
    CC memsize.o
    CC miiphybb.o
    CC miiphyutil.o
    CC s_record.o
    CC serial.o
    CC soft_i2c.o
    CC soft_spi.o
    CC spartan2.o
    CC spartan3.o
    CC usb.o
    CC usb_kbd.o
    CC usb_storage.o
    CC virtex2.o
    CC xilinx.o
    CC crc16.o
    CC xyzModem.o
    CC cmd_mac.o
    AR libcommon.a
    SUBDIR libfdt/
    CC fdt.o
    CC fdt_ro.o
    CC fdt_rw.o
    CC fdt_strerror.o
    CC fdt_sw.o
    CC fdt_wip.o
    AR libfdt.a
    FINALLINK u-boot
    OBJCOPY u-boot.srec
    OBJCOPY u-boot.bin

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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
  2008-01-23 22:11 [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output Jon Loeliger
@ 2008-01-23 22:33 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
  2008-01-24  0:41 ` Wolfgang Denk
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD @ 2008-01-23 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On 16:11 Wed 23 Jan     , Jon Loeliger wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> In the spirit of the Linux and Git build systems,
> I have a modified U-Boot build system that supports
> a much more concise output!  One of the primary
> motivations for this style of output is that it
> will very readily highlight build issues and problems
> as your build progresses.  The original, complete
> build output is obtainable by simply supplying "V=1"
> on the make invocation in exactly the same way as
> both Linux and Git do today.
> 
> I've not converted all 300 boards to this new scheme
> yet, but would like your feedback on the approach.
> I know there are a few rough edges; those are easily
> smoothed out.  I'd like to hear your comments on the
> overall approach before I spend too much more time
> on it!
> 
> The ambitious amongst you can clone or inspect the
> repository with these modifications from here:
> 
>     git://jdl.com/software/u-boot.cfg
> 
> Here is a sample build output for the MPC8641HPCN_config.
> 
> Enjoy,
> jdl
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> % make
>     SUBDIR tools
>     SYMLN environment.c
>     SYMLN crc32.c
I'm actually working on a same function with the kconfig integration,
I will sumbit it soon.

Best Regards,
J.

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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
  2008-01-23 22:11 [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output Jon Loeliger
  2008-01-23 22:33 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
@ 2008-01-24  0:41 ` Wolfgang Denk
  2008-01-24 22:08   ` Scott Wood
  2008-01-24 23:21   ` Grant Likely
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2008-01-24  0:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Dear Jon,

in message <E1JHnoD-0004we-IN@jdl.com> you wrote:
> 
> In the spirit of the Linux and Git build systems,
> I have a modified U-Boot build system that supports
> a much more concise output!  One of the primary
> motivations for this style of output is that it
> will very readily highlight build issues and problems
> as your build progresses.  The original, complete
> build output is obtainable by simply supplying "V=1"
> on the make invocation in exactly the same way as
> both Linux and Git do today.

Thanks for your efforts.  I  will  not  object  against  adding  such
changes,  but  - speaking strictly for myself only - I don't see much
of improvement from it. It doesn't help me in my daily work.

Usually I find myself in one of two situations: either I just want to
build U-Boot for a board and don't want to see any messages from  the
build  process  except  error messages - then I use "make -s"; or I'm
debugging the make process itself, and I want to see all commands  in
full detail, then I run plain "make".

Well, to be honest, usually I'm doing none of these. In  95%  of  all
cases  I  just  run  "MAKEALL boardname" as this gives me the best of
both solutions: a silent build process with only warnings and  errors
printed,  and if something goes wrong and needs further investigation
I still have the full build lon in the LOG/ directory, i. e. I  don't
have to re-run the make.


So my question is: which problem are you trying to solve that is  not
already solved by "make -s" or "MAKEALL"? I don't really see the need
for a solution between no output and full output. YMMV, of course.

Hope I didn't frustrate you - I still appreciate the effort.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
"If God had wanted us to use the metric system, Jesus would have  had
10 apostles."

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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
  2008-01-24  0:41 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2008-01-24 22:08   ` Scott Wood
  2008-01-24 23:18     ` Wolfgang Denk
  2008-01-24 23:21   ` Grant Likely
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Scott Wood @ 2008-01-24 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> So my question is: which problem are you trying to solve that is  not
> already solved by "make -s" or "MAKEALL"? I don't really see the need
> for a solution between no output and full output. YMMV, of course.

It's nice to have a progress meter of what's currently being compiled, 
without so much noise that warnings are missed.

-Scott

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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
  2008-01-24 22:08   ` Scott Wood
@ 2008-01-24 23:18     ` Wolfgang Denk
  2008-01-24 23:26       ` Scott Wood
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2008-01-24 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

In message <47990C67.1010104@freescale.com> you wrote:
> Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > So my question is: which problem are you trying to solve that is  not
> > already solved by "make -s" or "MAKEALL"? I don't really see the need
> > for a solution between no output and full output. YMMV, of course.
> 
> It's nice to have a progress meter of what's currently being compiled, 
> without so much noise that warnings are missed.

Hm... you don't need a progress meter, you need a faster machine ;-)

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
- Voltaire

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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
  2008-01-24  0:41 ` Wolfgang Denk
  2008-01-24 22:08   ` Scott Wood
@ 2008-01-24 23:21   ` Grant Likely
  2008-01-25  0:23     ` gvb.uboot
  2008-01-25 17:39     ` Jon Loeliger
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Grant Likely @ 2008-01-24 23:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On 1/23/08, Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:
> Dear Jon,
>
> in message <E1JHnoD-0004we-IN@jdl.com> you wrote:
> >
> > In the spirit of the Linux and Git build systems,
> > I have a modified U-Boot build system that supports
> > a much more concise output!  One of the primary
> > motivations for this style of output is that it
> > will very readily highlight build issues and problems
> > as your build progresses.  The original, complete
> > build output is obtainable by simply supplying "V=1"
> > on the make invocation in exactly the same way as
> > both Linux and Git do today.
>
<snip>
> So my question is: which problem are you trying to solve that is  not
> already solved by "make -s" or "MAKEALL"? I don't really see the need
> for a solution between no output and full output. YMMV, of course.
>
> Hope I didn't frustrate you - I still appreciate the effort.

Hey Jon, Wolfgang;

I think this is a good change myself.  The biggest reason is that it
makes the default output terse instead of verbose.  I'd hazard to
wager that most developers don't use 'make -s', MAKEALL, or anything
else to trim the output (I certainly don't).  By making the default
output terse, with errors and warning visually distinct from progress
indication, in increases the likelyhood that warnings will actually
get seen and fixed (because more people will notice it).

I say make this change.

Cheers,
g.



-- 
Grant Likely, B.Sc., P.Eng.
Secret Lab Technologies Ltd.

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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
  2008-01-24 23:18     ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2008-01-24 23:26       ` Scott Wood
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Scott Wood @ 2008-01-24 23:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> In message <47990C67.1010104@freescale.com> you wrote:
>> Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>>> So my question is: which problem are you trying to solve that is  not
>>> already solved by "make -s" or "MAKEALL"? I don't really see the need
>>> for a solution between no output and full output. YMMV, of course.
>> It's nice to have a progress meter of what's currently being compiled, 
>> without so much noise that warnings are missed.
> 
> Hm... you don't need a progress meter, you need a faster machine ;-)

Either that or Ritalin. :-)

-Scott

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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
  2008-01-24 23:21   ` Grant Likely
@ 2008-01-25  0:23     ` gvb.uboot
  2008-01-29 10:06       ` Stefan Roese
  2008-01-25 17:39     ` Jon Loeliger
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: gvb.uboot @ 2008-01-25  0:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Grant Likely wrote:
> On 1/23/08, Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:
>> Dear Jon,
>>
>> in message <E1JHnoD-0004we-IN@jdl.com> you wrote:
>>> In the spirit of the Linux and Git build systems,
>>> I have a modified U-Boot build system that supports
>>> a much more concise output!  One of the primary
>>> motivations for this style of output is that it
>>> will very readily highlight build issues and problems
>>> as your build progresses.  The original, complete
>>> build output is obtainable by simply supplying "V=1"
>>> on the make invocation in exactly the same way as
>>> both Linux and Git do today.
> <snip>
>> So my question is: which problem are you trying to solve that is  not
>> already solved by "make -s" or "MAKEALL"? I don't really see the need
>> for a solution between no output and full output. YMMV, of course.
>>
>> Hope I didn't frustrate you - I still appreciate the effort.
> 
> Hey Jon, Wolfgang;
> 
> I think this is a good change myself.  The biggest reason is that it
> makes the default output terse instead of verbose.  I'd hazard to
> wager that most developers don't use 'make -s', MAKEALL, or anything
> else to trim the output (I certainly don't).  By making the default
> output terse, with errors and warning visually distinct from progress
> indication, in increases the likelyhood that warnings will actually
> get seen and fixed (because more people will notice it).
> 
> I say make this change.
> 
> Cheers,
> g.

Plus my 2 cents if this is a voting matter.

gvb

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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
  2008-01-24 23:21   ` Grant Likely
  2008-01-25  0:23     ` gvb.uboot
@ 2008-01-25 17:39     ` Jon Loeliger
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jon Loeliger @ 2008-01-25 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Grant Likely wrote:

> Hey Jon, Wolfgang;
> 
> I think this is a good change myself.  The biggest reason is that it
> makes the default output terse instead of verbose.  I'd hazard to
> wager that most developers don't use 'make -s', MAKEALL, or anything
> else to trim the output (I certainly don't).  By making the default
> output terse, with errors and warning visually distinct from progress
> indication, in increases the likelyhood that warnings will actually
> get seen and fixed (because more people will notice it).

Heh.  In fact, if you were all paying really close attention,
I submitted a compiler warning cleanup patch in the middle
of this effort due to finally _seeing_ it! :-)

> I say make this change.

Thanks for the support here!
So, OK, I'll continue to fixup the remaining
board Makefiles, make it all available, and post
the patches here as well!

Thanks,
jdl

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* [U-Boot-Users] RFC: Concise Build Output
  2008-01-25  0:23     ` gvb.uboot
@ 2008-01-29 10:06       ` Stefan Roese
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Roese @ 2008-01-29 10:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Friday 25 January 2008, gvb.uboot wrote:
> > I think this is a good change myself.  The biggest reason is that it
> > makes the default output terse instead of verbose.  I'd hazard to
> > wager that most developers don't use 'make -s', MAKEALL, or anything
> > else to trim the output (I certainly don't).  By making the default
> > output terse, with errors and warning visually distinct from progress
> > indication, in increases the likelyhood that warnings will actually
> > get seen and fixed (because more people will notice it).
> >
> > I say make this change.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > g.
>
> Plus my 2 cents if this is a voting matter.

Add my 2 cents too. :)

Best regards,
Stefan

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2008-01-24 22:08   ` Scott Wood
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