[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[Wolfgang Denk]

Hello,

I would like to get your general opinion about moving the
"u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on
lists.denx.de instead.


There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been
slow; there have been reports from many users  who  got  unsubscribed
repeatedly  for  no  clear  reason; the mailing list archive at SF is
painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change
the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the  mercy
of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.

Another reason is that this would make it easier for us to cross-link
between messages on the mailing list and entries in the upcoming  bug
and patch tracking system.


If we have a majority agreeing with this change, I suggest to proceed
as follows:

* The new mailing list will be created as u-boot-users at lists.denx.de
* The mailing list archive will be transferred from SF to DENX
* The archive services (gmane etc.) will be notified about the change
* All currently subscribed users and their settings will be
  transferred from SF to DENX
* After a cut-off date, all users are requested to use the new ML only
  [that will be the complicated part].
* The ML at SF will be set to read-only to make clear it is no longer
* in use.

Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Of course there's no reason for it, it's just our policy.

[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[Kumar Gala]

On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I would like to get your general opinion about moving the
> "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on
> lists.denx.de instead.

Yes!

- k

[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[Ben Warren]

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to get your general opinion about moving the
> "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on
> lists.denx.de instead.
>
>
> There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been
> slow; there have been reports from many users  who  got  unsubscribed
> repeatedly  for  no  clear  reason; the mailing list archive at SF is
> painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change
> the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the  mercy
> of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.
>
> Another reason is that this would make it easier for us to cross-link
> between messages on the mailing list and entries in the upcoming  bug
> and patch tracking system.
>
>
> If we have a majority agreeing with this change, I suggest to proceed
> as follows:
>
> * The new mailing list will be created as u-boot-users at lists.denx.de
> * The mailing list archive will be transferred from SF to DENX
> * The archive services (gmane etc.) will be notified about the change
> * All currently subscribed users and their settings will be
>  transferred from SF to DENX
> * After a cut-off date, all users are requested to use the new ML only
>  [that will be the complicated part].
> * The ML at SF will be set to read-only to make clear it is no longer
> * in use.
>
> Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?
>

Great idea

[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[Robert Schwebel]

On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 05:17:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?

Yes, good idea! Local infrastructure has turned out to be much more
reliable than services like SF these days.

rsc
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[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[ksi at koi8.net]

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Robert Schwebel wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 05:17:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>> Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?

I vote for this. It is always better to use local infrastructure.

> Yes, good idea! Local infrastructure has turned out to be much more
> reliable than services like SF these days.
>
> rsc
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[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[T Ziomek]

On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 05:17:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> I would like to get your general opinion about moving the
> "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on
> lists.denx.de instead.
> 
> There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been
> slow; there have been reports from many users  who  got  unsubscribed
> repeatedly  for  no  clear  reason; the mailing list archive at SF is
> painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change
> the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the  mercy
> of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.

Full ACK!

Tom
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[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[Magnus Lilja]

> Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?

Yes!

/Magnus

[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[Grant Likely]

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to get your general opinion about moving the
> "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on
> lists.denx.de instead.
>
>
> There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been
> slow; there have been reports from many users  who  got  unsubscribed
> repeatedly  for  no  clear  reason; the mailing list archive at SF is
> painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change
> the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the  mercy
> of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.
>
> Another reason is that this would make it easier for us to cross-link
> between messages on the mailing list and entries in the upcoming  bug
> and patch tracking system.
>
>
> If we have a majority agreeing with this change, I suggest to proceed
> as follows:
>
> * The new mailing list will be created as u-boot-users at lists.denx.de
> * The mailing list archive will be transferred from SF to DENX
> * The archive services (gmane etc.) will be notified about the change
> * All currently subscribed users and their settings will be
>  transferred from SF to DENX
> * After a cut-off date, all users are requested to use the new ML only
>  [that will be the complicated part].
> * The ML at SF will be set to read-only to make clear it is no longer
> * in use.
>
> Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?

Yes...

but I'll take this opportunity to suggest that kernel.org hosting
might provide better support with far less effort... then again, I
don't need to maintain it, so I really shouldn't care.  :-)

g.

-- 
Grant Likely, B.Sc., P.Eng.
Secret Lab Technologies Ltd.

[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[Jon Loeliger]

On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 17:17 +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to get your general opinion about moving the
> "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on
> lists.denx.de instead.

This sounds like a great idea to me!

jdl

[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD]

 
> Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?
As everyone agree, it's a great idea

Best Regards,
J.

[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

[Matthias Fuchs]

Hi Wolfgang,

yes, please do so. 

I just returned from vacation and got unsubscribed again :-(

Matthias

On Friday 01 August 2008 17:17, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to get your general opinion about moving the
> "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on
> lists.denx.de instead.
> 
> 
> There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been
> slow; there have been reports from many users  who  got  unsubscribed
> repeatedly  for  no  clear  reason; the mailing list archive at SF is
> painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change
> the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the  mercy
> of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.
> 
> Another reason is that this would make it easier for us to cross-link
> between messages on the mailing list and entries in the upcoming  bug
> and patch tracking system.
> 
> 
> If we have a majority agreeing with this change, I suggest to proceed
> as follows:
> 
> * The new mailing list will be created as u-boot-users at lists.denx.de
> * The mailing list archive will be transferred from SF to DENX
> * The archive services (gmane etc.) will be notified about the change
> * All currently subscribed users and their settings will be
>   transferred from SF to DENX
> * After a cut-off date, all users are requested to use the new ML only
>   [that will be the complicated part].
> * The ML at SF will be set to read-only to make clear it is no longer
> * in use.
> 
> Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Wolfgang Denk
>