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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] 7/12 Multiadapter/multibus I2C, drivers part 4
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:49:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090217224940.02BC6832E893@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64ksi.0902171233390.30435@home-gw.koi8.net>

Dear ksi at koi8.net,

In message <Pine.LNX.4.64ksi.0902171233390.30435@home-gw.koi8.net> you wrote:
>
> What is unreadable in that code?

It gets out of control. You don;t see any more how much code gets
generated from that.

> > This is a boot loader with limited resources, not a general purpose
> > OS.
> 
> It doesn't matter. It is much better to have a uniform API for all the
> future developers to use than to multiply horrible hacks and reinventing the
> wheel again and again.

Well, I tell you again that size does matter, and may even be a
killing point when deciding abouut a patch.

> > What makes you insist that we cannot change a variable if we need to
> > be able to change one?
> 
> It is NOT just variable. My approach uses i2c _BUS_, not _ADAPTER_. And
> number of busses can be bigger than number of adapters (e.g. when some
> busses a reached via muxes or switches.) When doing i2c_set_current_bus()
> you are switching _NOT_ adapters, but busses. That involves not only
> changing that global variable but also reprogramming muxes/switches for
> i2c_set_current_bus() to be consistent and hardware independent. Otherwise
> your code should know if that particular bus it is switching to is directly
> connected or switched and check the bus it is switching from for muxes. If
> they are switched, your code should disconnect the current bus switches,
> then do that i2c_set_current_bus() and connect the switches to the new bus
> after that.
> 
> That means that code MUST somehow know the topology to take appropriate
> actions and properly configure those switches. That means you should somehow
> describe that topology for each and every board in CONFIG_* terms and make
> each and every place at U-Boot that invokes _ANY_ i2c function to take care
> of that switching.

You convinced me. This code must not be used before relocation to RAM,
then.

[On the other hand I still wonder why I have never seen any such
board appear to me in real life yet. None of the 500+ boards
supported in U-Boot uses any such configuration.]

> And yes, we DO have some boards with switched I2C busses in U-Boot main tree
> so this is NOT a hypothetical situation.

Yes, it is, because none of them needs any such switching before
relocation. And switching is really simple so far.

> > > And the million dollar question -- what is the potential gain?
> > 
> > Indeed. The  same  question  goes  to  you  -  where  is  this  added
> > complexity  really  needed? So far nowhere. Are we just talking about
> > hypothetical cases, or about a real design? How  many  such  designs?
> > Just a single one?
> 
> Please see above.

You did not answer my question.


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-17 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-13 10:17 [U-Boot] [PATCH] 7/12 Multiadapter/multibus I2C, drivers part 4 Heiko Schocher
2009-02-13 21:23 ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-14  8:24   ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-15  5:03     ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-15  7:56       ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-16  6:35         ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-16  9:03           ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-16 22:17             ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-17 21:23               ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-16 22:16           ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-17 21:22             ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18  7:23               ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-16 22:11       ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-17 21:19         ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-17 22:49           ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2009-02-17 23:42             ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18  0:13               ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-18  0:35                 ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18  7:47                   ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-18 18:05                     ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18 18:26                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-18 19:47                         ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18 22:09                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-18 23:00                             ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18 23:31                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-19  0:46                                 ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19  8:00                               ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-19 19:48                                 ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19 20:50                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-19 22:26                                     ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-20  8:53                                       ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-20  7:08                                     ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-20  7:06                                   ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-18  7:33             ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-18  8:06               ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-18  8:15                 ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-18  8:55                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-18 18:58                     ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18 18:51                 ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18 17:44               ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19  6:10                 ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-19 14:46                   ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19 15:06                     ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-19 19:52                       ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19 20:55                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-19 22:33                           ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-20  7:09                           ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-18  7:20           ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-18 18:48             ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19  6:31               ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-19 19:35                 ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19 21:22                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-20  0:13                     ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-20  7:01                   ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-20 21:29                     ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-21  7:25                       ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-21 18:19                         ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18  8:17           ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-18  8:58             ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-18 18:57               ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18 21:56                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-18 22:32                   ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-18 22:48                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-19  0:35                       ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19  8:04                         ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-19 21:29                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-19  7:39                       ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-19 19:40                         ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19  6:42                 ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-18 18:53             ` ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-19  6:34               ` Heiko Schocher
2009-02-19 19:36                 ` ksi at koi8.net
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-12 22:25 ksi at koi8.net
2009-02-16 21:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-17 20:02   ` ksi at koi8.net

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