From: Robert Schwebel <r.schwebel@pengutronix.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [ANNOUNCE] Kconfig support
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:54:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090421145459.GO5367@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090421144004.B1DF583420E8@gemini.denx.de>
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 04:40:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > 1. Wolfgang has a focus on stability and gradual changes. We respect this
> > political position because it is a *good* one.
>
> This is not quite correct. What I consider important is an evo-
> lutionary path - this may include bigger changes and reorganizations,
> but I consider it a bad idea to not provide a reasonable migration
> path for larger parts of the existing community.
An evolutionary path in limited time is not possible when you want to
change fundamental design issues. This is our oppinion, feel free to
proove us wrong.
> > 3. It was an active decision from our team *not* to fork and call it
> > something else than U-Boot(-v2) when we started. We see that the
> > U-Boot community is strong, it has long term aims and last but not
> > least, it has a *great* bootloader. We talked to Wolfgang before
> > doing so, and Wolfgang's position was in the spirit of "go ahead,
> > here is a git tree, and let the community decide".
>
> This is actually wrong. When we talked about these things, you had
> already performed a split, and had a up-and-running implementation
> behind your (kind of closed) doors. It was me who asked you to make
> this existing code openly available.
Well, how do you think such things are going to happen? By starting with
a big vapourware discussion? Come on. Someone has to show some code, and
that's what we did. It is all GPL, so it is as much open or closed doors
as anything else.
> What I missed, and what I still consider a big chance that was
> missed, is any public discussion about such a new design - before the
> actual work was started, or at least before such irrevocable
> decisions were made as not to consider any form of an upgrade path.
Until now all we hear is whining about the design, while almost nobody
has ever looked into the code. Could you elaborate? What would you like
to see? What is there that you don't like? Please feel free to send
patches if you have other ideas for v2.
rsc
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-21 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-18 16:25 [U-Boot] [ANNOUNCE] Kconfig support Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-04-18 18:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-18 18:54 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-18 19:18 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-18 20:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-19 19:50 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-20 4:56 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20 6:52 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-20 13:49 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20 14:04 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-20 14:42 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20 14:53 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-20 15:04 ` Jerry Van Baren
2009-04-20 15:20 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20 15:34 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-04-20 18:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-21 7:04 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-21 7:13 ` Daniel Stenberg
2009-04-21 14:40 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-21 14:54 ` Robert Schwebel [this message]
2009-04-21 18:21 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-04-21 20:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-21 22:30 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-04-21 23:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-22 7:17 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-22 13:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-22 10:27 ` Ladislav Michl
2009-04-22 8:53 ` Heiko Schocher
2009-04-22 13:25 ` Ladislav Michl
2009-04-22 14:11 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-22 14:26 ` Jerry Van Baren
2009-04-23 9:13 ` Ladislav Michl
2009-04-21 23:34 ` Ladislav Michl
2009-04-20 19:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-20 19:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-19 19:48 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-19 21:59 ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-19 23:21 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-04-20 6:50 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-18 18:41 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-19 16:38 ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-20 12:02 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-04-20 15:26 ` [U-Boot] Kconfig support - menuconfig broken? Kumar Gala
2009-04-20 16:25 ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-20 19:08 ` [U-Boot] [ANNOUNCE] Kconfig support Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-20 19:58 ` Kumar Gala
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-20 15:39 Grant Likely
2009-04-20 18:22 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20 18:42 ` Scott Wood
2009-04-20 19:23 ` Mike Frysinger
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