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From: Robert Schwebel <r.schwebel@pengutronix.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [ANNOUNCE] Kconfig support
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:17:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090422071711.GH5367@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090421231207.85CBA83420E8@gemini.denx.de>

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 01:12:07AM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > How can you possibly ever change the API for the flash driver with 201
> > different flash drivers in the tree without marking something as broken?
>
> Well, *if* we wanted to change the API, that would be a reason to get
> rid of the old legacy flash drivers. But so far no  such  API  change
> has  been  necessary.  And  here  and  there the old drivers are even
> necessary due to restrictions of the CFI driver that are not too easy
> to fix.
>
> So what exactly is it you are critizising? That we don't abondon
> working code just because it is old? Hm...

If you consider the current code duplication and ifdef hackery to be an
API, then yes, you are right and there is no need to change anything.

> > One of these boards is the Auerswald Innokom, a board Robert once
> > ported. We probably still have it somewhere @Pengutronix, but nobody in
> > the world has any interest in running a top of tree U-Boot on it. Still
> > it is in the tree and by policy it has to be supported for all eternity.
>
> Feel free to submit patches to remove it from the tree if you care.

Why should I?

> On the other hand - how much effort was  actually  spent  on  keeping
> this  board  alive?  Obviously  not  much, because so far nobody com-
> plained about it. Actually that's the whole idea about having a board
> in mainline. If you look at the changes  that  were  applied  to  the
> related  files,  it's  all stuff that was done 99% automatically with
> some scripts - and I don't really care if these  are  applied  to  20
> boards or to 200.

It is not the effort to keep it alive. These old boards, while being
there, add the requirement not to be broken by any change in the tree.
This makes it impossible to make any fundamental design changes in
U-Boot, like what Sascha did in v2.

> I fail to understand what you are trying to tell us.

Re-read the mails, it is all in there.

rsc
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-22  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-18 16:25 [U-Boot] [ANNOUNCE] Kconfig support Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-04-18 18:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-18 18:54   ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-18 19:18     ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-18 20:01       ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-19 19:50       ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-20  4:56         ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20  6:52           ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-20 13:49             ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20 14:04               ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-20 14:42                 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20 14:53                   ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-20 15:04                     ` Jerry Van Baren
2009-04-20 15:20                     ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20 15:34                       ` Sascha Hauer
2009-04-20 18:29                         ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-21  7:04                           ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-21  7:13                             ` Daniel Stenberg
2009-04-21 14:40                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-21 14:54                               ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-21 18:21                               ` Sascha Hauer
2009-04-21 20:08                                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-21 22:30                                   ` Sascha Hauer
2009-04-21 23:12                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-22  7:17                                       ` Robert Schwebel [this message]
2009-04-22 13:58                                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-22 10:27                                       ` Ladislav Michl
2009-04-22  8:53                                         ` Heiko Schocher
2009-04-22 13:25                                           ` Ladislav Michl
2009-04-22 14:11                                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-22 14:26                                               ` Jerry Van Baren
2009-04-23  9:13                                                 ` Ladislav Michl
2009-04-21 23:34                                   ` Ladislav Michl
2009-04-20 19:17                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-20 19:12                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-19 19:48     ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-19 21:59       ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-19 23:21         ` Sascha Hauer
2009-04-20  6:50         ` Robert Schwebel
2009-04-18 18:41 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-19 16:38 ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-20 12:02   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-04-20 15:26     ` [U-Boot] Kconfig support - menuconfig broken? Kumar Gala
2009-04-20 16:25       ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-20 19:08     ` [U-Boot] [ANNOUNCE] Kconfig support Wolfgang Denk
2009-04-20 19:58       ` Kumar Gala
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-20 15:39 Grant Likely
2009-04-20 18:22 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-04-20 18:42   ` Scott Wood
2009-04-20 19:23     ` Mike Frysinger

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