From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/2] Make sure 85xx bss doesn't start at 0x0
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:22:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091006152210.37EB2F15B3E@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1254839043.24664.1890.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Dear Peter Tyser,
In message <1254839043.24664.1890.camel@localhost.localdomain> you wrote:
>
> > > But bss is NOLOAD, and the actual location in the flash is just a
> > > fiction - we never use anything of this but the start address.
>
> My concern was that we use __bss_start and _end to calculate the size of
> the bss to zero out. If the bss wraps, I'd be concerned about what gets
> cleared as _end would be truncated to a low memory address while
> __bss_start would be a high memory address. Or other similar problems -
> I didn't investigate what would really happen, I was just worried what
> could happen:)
So far U-Boot is actually a 32 bit boot loader; address calculations
like this "just wrap around". So far this has not caused problems yet;
what has caused problems is that we can have overlapping sections on
4xx. Also it's probably overkill that each board has it's own linker
script.
I would like to see this fixed in this process. Maybe Stefan finds
some spare cycles to address this.
> > Where is BSS on 44x boards? I dont see any reason we shouldn't be
> > able to put it at the same location.
>
> >From the XPedite1000:
>
> [ 0] NULL 00000000 000000 000000 00 0 0 0
> [ 1] .resetvec PROGBITS fffffffc 03f2e4 000004 00 AX 0 0 1
> [ 2] .bootpg PROGBITS fffff000 03e2e8 000250 00 AX 0 0 1
> [ 3] .text PROGBITS fff80000 000094 0303b0 00 AX 0 0 4
> [ 4] .rodata PROGBITS fffb03b0 030444 00a14c 00 A 0 0 4
> [ 5] .reloc PROGBITS fffba500 03a594 002280 00 WA 0 0 4
> [ 6] .data PROGBITS fffbc780 03c814 00088c 00 WA 0 0 4
> [ 7] .data.rel.local PROGBITS fffbd00c 03d0a0 000a98 00 WA 0 0 4
> [ 8] .data.rel.ro.loca PROGBITS fffbdaa4 03db38 0000b0 00 WA 0 0 4
> [ 9] .data.rel PROGBITS fffbdb54 03dbe8 000100 00 WA 0 0 4
> [10] .u_boot_cmd PROGBITS fffbdc54 03dce8 000600 00 WA 0 0 4
> [11] .bss NOBITS fffbe300 03e2e8 011c44 00 WA 0 0 4
>
> I shied away from this for the 2 reasons above - the bootpg section will
> be wiped out when the bss is cleared for images near their maximum size
I think it will not be needed any more by then.
> and I wasn't sure if there were any ramifications about the bss wrapping
> around to 0. Other arches must have a similar issue which would
> somewhat imply:
> 1. No one cares if their bootpg/reset vector is cleared
I think this is only relevant while running from flash, but not after
relocation.
> 2. U-Boot works even if the bss wraps around to 0.
This is indeed the case.
> If everyone is OK with the limitation of #1 above I can make the 85xx
> act like the other PPC boards. The only downside I see is that we could
> never put any non-reset related code in the bootpg.
What about my suggestion to chose a fixed (random, non-zero) address?
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-06 15:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-05 23:01 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/2] Make sure 85xx bss doesn't start at 0x0 Peter Tyser
2009-10-05 23:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] 85xx: Preprocess link scripts Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 7:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 11:13 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-05 23:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] 85xx: Ensure BSS segment doesn't start at address 0x0 Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 8:54 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 12:10 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 7:32 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/2] Make sure 85xx bss doesn't start at 0x0 Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 12:01 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 14:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 14:07 ` Kumar Gala
2009-10-06 14:24 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 15:22 ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2009-10-06 15:45 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 17:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 18:08 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 20:34 ` J. William Campbell
2009-10-06 20:53 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 22:34 ` J. William Campbell
2009-10-06 23:10 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 23:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 23:43 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-07 0:09 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-07 1:24 ` Graeme Russ
2009-10-07 6:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-07 9:56 ` Graeme Russ
2009-10-07 10:07 ` Graeme Russ
2009-10-07 10:32 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2009-10-07 14:37 ` J. William Campbell
2009-10-07 6:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-07 11:57 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-07 12:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 23:07 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 23:29 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-07 6:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 20:46 ` Kumar Gala
2009-10-06 21:13 ` Peter Tyser
2009-10-06 16:53 ` Stefan Roese
2009-10-06 15:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-10-06 15:20 ` Peter Tyser
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